American motors may be low tech, they may use old technology, this is true and i agree. But the viper engine is anything but low tech, though it may use old methods. Now i hate the american car as much as the next guy, but everything is very tuned on the new viper. Especially the valvetrain and breathing characteristics of the engine. You say it only makes 500 hp, this is because of emmisions. The 8.3 liter engine uses A LOT of fuel, so they do what they did with the 325e, retard the timing and regulate the fuel use. However what 500 hp and 500 ft/lbs of torque is thats so amazing is that you get it at 2300 rpms. Does your 500 hp/trq m3 or m5 make it at 2500? no it makes it at 4-5k rpms if not higher. And the vipers power curve is as flat as any prepubesent elementary school girl. And as for the pushrods, yea i hate them too, but these arnt low tech ones, using roller rockers and all it has a red line of 6500, 7k max, similar to many BMWs out there. I dont want to say whos right american vs import, its like the ever going argument of mary ann vs ginger, coke vs pepsi, super charger vs turbo charger. I just cant stand people who are so incredibly biased and 1 sided they wont even look to consider the other side.american cars...may have lots of power but their still such low tech motors...8 liters for the viper to get 500 hp...WTF?
Nah, it's called having an opinion. Just because it doesn't mesh with your does not make them ignorant. Maybe uninformed is a better word huh, ignorance has such a negative connotation. Besides, there is no reason to insult people.Originally posted by KMracing@Apr 20 2003, 09:57 AM
i agree. its called ignorance fox.
GTO is an import. Its made by an italian company, i forgot which.As far as American cars are concerned, the upcoming GTO is good,
Close, Fox - actually it's a Australian GM company called Holden. =) Holden has some good designs but they never made the transition over here besides the new GTO.Originally posted by Fox@Apr 21 2003, 10:10 AM
GTO is an import. Its made by an italian company, i forgot which.
God whats with all the talk about italians today?? First those lambos, lotus, and ferrai posts, then aprilia posts.. gah