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Originally posted by SpeedsterBMW@Jun 6 2003, 01:20 PM
dont give into the low prices of the japeneese imports, that have sucky interiors!
Agreed Jeff,

I almost bought an Acura b4 i got my E46...

Their interiors feel tacky, plastcky, the seating surfaces (parts that you sit in) are leather but the rest of the seat aint... and ghey



Some Jap trap interiors just feel cheezy imho...

Of course they look cool when it's a new car but after a few years they look like shit...
 

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Look at a 89 Acuara Legend.....
89 Audi 6000
89 BMW M3


03 Acura TSX
03 Audi A4
03 BMW 3 series


2012 Acura ...
2012 Audi
2012 BMW 3 Series
 

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The point is BMW depreciates less and the looks are timeless.

Why would you consider buying an expensive HONDA over a german masterpice.

I like the A4 IMO get the 325 but NOT the Honda
 

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I dont like the looks of the TSX, or the name. I say A4 1.8t w/ k&n filter, chip, and exhaust. Looks and power a plenty.

The e46 has more class but wont gain as much from mods. Depends on what you want out of it, but I say skip the TSX either way.
 

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youre right Donut.. but im getting a short shifter soon so it should be fixed. Ive driven the RSX plenty of times and i like it.
But still, ill take the A4 because of the overall quality and performance of the car. Its really up to you...but I just want you to make
the best decision. You cant go wrong with the tsx, 325i or the a4...all 3 are excellent cars.


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yeah. germans usually a good choice, but its all ur preference. even if ur passing the best car in the world for a suckier one...if u like it, u get it cuz its ur car...not anyone elses.
 

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Originally posted by RetroSpek@Jun 7 2003, 01:25 AM
youre right Donut.. but im getting a short shifter soon so it should be fixed. Ive driven the RSX plenty of times and i like it.
But still, ill take the A4 because of the overall quality and performance of the car. Its really up to you...but I just want you to make
the best decision. You cant go wrong with the tsx, 325i or the a4...all 3 are excellent cars.


Lawrence
hondas are so much cheaper to fix down the road compared to german cars. that is a big advantage. and how is the acura interior crap? it has a 6 cd changer standard and a better stereo standard than BMW.
 
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Originally posted by donutchow+Jun 7 2003, 12:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (donutchow @ Jun 7 2003, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--RetroSpek@Jun 7 2003, 01:25 AM
youre right Donut.. but im getting a short shifter soon so it should be fixed. Ive driven the RSX plenty of times and i like it.
But still, ill take the A4 because of the overall quality and performance of the car. Its really up to you...but I just want you to make
the best decision. You cant go wrong with the tsx, 325i or the a4...all 3 are excellent cars.


Lawrence
hondas are so much cheaper to fix down the road compared to german cars. that is a big advantage. and how is the acura interior crap? it has a 6 cd changer standard and a better stereo standard than BMW. [/b][/quote]
thats called the sound system eric...the interior "feel" is so much cheesier...go over railroad tracks in an acura and listen to all the rattles and the shake, go over it in a bimmer, and hear nothing (mercedes are the best at this, better then bmw)....while honda's engines are reliable, the rest of the car is crappy...how else do they make the tl type S so cheap, yet its acceleration is closing in on 540's? they gotta skimp somewhere, and most of the time, its in the interior and suspension components....high speed stability on an acura is NOO where near that of a 325, or audi 1.8T
 

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Originally posted by SpeedsterBMW+Jun 7 2003, 11:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SpeedsterBMW @ Jun 7 2003, 11:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 12:18 PM
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@Jun 7 2003, 01:25 AM
youre right Donut.. but im getting a short shifter soon so it should be fixed.  Ive driven the RSX plenty of times and i like it.
But still, ill take the A4 because of the overall quality and performance of the car.  Its really up to you...but I just want you to make
the best decision.  You cant go wrong with the tsx, 325i or the a4...all 3 are excellent cars.


Lawrence

hondas are so much cheaper to fix down the road compared to german cars. that is a big advantage. and how is the acura interior crap? it has a 6 cd changer standard and a better stereo standard than BMW.
thats called the sound system eric...the interior "feel" is so much cheesier...go over railroad tracks in an acura and listen to all the rattles and the shake, go over it in a bimmer, and hear nothing (mercedes are the best at this, better then bmw)....while honda's engines are reliable, the rest of the car is crappy...how else do they make the tl type S so cheap, yet its acceleration is closing in on 540's? they gotta skimp somewhere, and most of the time, its in the interior and suspension components....high speed stability on an acura is NOO where near that of a 325, or audi 1.8T [/b][/quote]
i think the tl has a more luxurious ride than the 3 series. the 3 seires is a little stiff IMO. no doubt it handles better, but some cars are better at different things. like price! is it worth to have a bmw for 8 grand more than the TSX?
 
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Originally posted by donutchow+Jun 7 2003, 01:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (donutchow @ Jun 7 2003, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2003, 12:18 PM
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@Jun 7 2003, 01:25 AM
youre right Donut.. but im getting a short shifter soon so it should be fixed.  Ive driven the RSX plenty of times and i like it.
But still, ill take the A4 because of the overall quality and performance of the car.  Its really up to you...but I just want you to make
the best decision.  You cant go wrong with the tsx, 325i or the a4...all 3 are excellent cars.


Lawrence

hondas are so much cheaper to fix down the road compared to german cars. that is a big advantage. and how is the acura interior crap? it has a 6 cd changer standard and a better stereo standard than BMW.

thats called the sound system eric...the interior "feel" is so much cheesier...go over railroad tracks in an acura and listen to all the rattles and the shake, go over it in a bimmer, and hear nothing (mercedes are the best at this, better then bmw)....while honda's engines are reliable, the rest of the car is crappy...how else do they make the tl type S so cheap, yet its acceleration is closing in on 540's? they gotta skimp somewhere, and most of the time, its in the interior and suspension components....high speed stability on an acura is NOO where near that of a 325, or audi 1.8T
i think the tl has a more luxurious ride than the 3 series. the 3 seires is a little stiff IMO. no doubt it handles better, but some cars are better at different things. like price! is it worth to have a bmw for 8 grand more than the TSX? [/b][/quote]
donut, you keep falling to the low price of the TSX...the two cars are in two different markets...the TSX is in the asian import market, not a sports sedan/GT like a BMW. Sure the RSX has a great value, but you really cant compare the two. BTW, its funny how you say the TL is a bit more luxorious, because i remember driving our 99, it was like driving a cadilac, couldnt corner at ALL....205's all around with a suspension that leaned the leaning tower of pisa.....if you can afford it, get a 325, if not get a 1.8T but for god sakes eric!
 

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It's very interesting reading this thread. There's been a bunch of good points made, but guys, the Yugo PWNZ. :lol:

No really. Eric, if you haven't driven the TSX yet drive it and see what you think of the handling. Compare it to the rest, then forget all that. The way I see it is like this:

You like all three cars. You have your dislikes. They all eseentially balance out. The final factor is what you are comfortable paying. If the TSX has want you WANT, get it. I don't think you will be dissapointed in the TSX at all. For what it's worth Hondas do make good cars, they make em cheaper, they are cheaper to maintain (not because of substandard parts but because you're not paying for the roundle), and if you treat it right it'll last for ever.

To some people 5k is nothing, to others it's a big deal. It holds more weight when it's your money.
 

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Originally posted by GreenDragon@Jun 7 2003, 12:46 PM
It's very interesting reading this thread. There's been a bunch of good points made, but guys, the Yugo PWNZ. :lol:

No really. Eric, if you haven't driven the TSX yet drive it and see what you think of the handling. Compare it to the rest, then forget all that. The way I see it is like this:

You like all three cars. You have your dislikes. They all eseentially balance out. The final factor is what you are comfortable paying. If the TSX has want you WANT, get it. I don't think you will be dissapointed in the TSX at all. For what it's worth Hondas do make good cars, they make em cheaper, they are cheaper to maintain (not because of substandard parts but because you're not paying for the roundle), and if you treat it right it'll last for ever.

To some people 5k is nothing, to others it's a big deal. It holds more weight when it's your money.
another good point GD. some people arent load with money *cough*speedster*cough* which makes the little bits of money not seem as much. donut its ur money. buy what u want. opinions r useful, but when u go buy ur car, think bout whos driving it. u or them?
 

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Originally posted by presto+Jun 7 2003, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (presto @ Jun 7 2003, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--GreenDragon@Jun 7 2003, 12:46 PM
It's very interesting reading this thread. There's been a bunch of good points made, but guys, the Yugo PWNZ. :lol:

No really. Eric, if you haven't driven the TSX yet drive it and see what you think of the handling. Compare it to the rest, then forget all that. The way I see it is like this:

You like all three cars. You have your dislikes. They all eseentially balance out. The final factor is what you are comfortable paying. If the TSX has want you WANT, get it. I don't think you will be dissapointed in the TSX at all. For what it's worth Hondas do make good cars, they make em cheaper, they are cheaper to maintain (not because of substandard parts but because you're not paying for the roundle), and if you treat it right it'll last for ever.

To some people 5k is nothing, to others it's a big deal. It holds more weight when it's your money.
another good point GD. some people arent load with money *cough*speedster*cough* which makes the little bits of money not seem as much. donut its ur money. buy what u want. opinions r useful, but when u go buy ur car, think bout whos driving it. u or them? [/b][/quote]
GD made a good point but Speedster being incredibly spoiled and having too much bling bling has nothing to do with it :p .

Donut's dilemma has to do with price.. He's trying to justify on this board the reasons for buying the TSX.
TSX =$27k
A4= $30k
325= $35k

If its price youre still worried about... dont get heated seats on the a4 and youll be even closer to the tsx. The price on the audi and acura are very very very close. PLUS...audi offers 1.9% financing! How much is acura offering? 1.9% financing = saving more money than you think down the line.

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i THINK u should write another paper, this time about the tsx and any other car that is suggested to u. donut, just pick which car u want, whether or not its what anyone else here wants. if u want the tsx cuz u like the shifter and etc, buy it because u want to. everyones going to have an opinion. but its u who makes the choices in life. this guote kinda fits, but kinda doesnt, especially since its from a children's book but here

"Be who you are and say what you feel (insert "OR BUY WHAT U WANT") because people who mind don't matter and people who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss
 

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bottom line...

Acura's are built for Economy first... Luxury Second... and performance last...

Remember one of the main facet's of Honda's business is cheap and reliable cars

Acura's are basically Hondas with a more refined yet cheap interior.

Of course if you're stepping up from an economy car or what not you'll be drooling when you see a car with a better interior than the one you currently have.

BMW's are built for Performance first... Luxury second... and economy last...

On the other hand cars such as Porsche's were made to be used on the track and then slowly made their way to the consumer, they're not made to be luxurious at all, although they have leather and all the other knick knacks...

I reccomend that you watch the history of Porsche on the history channel (for all of you that haven't seen it I think it may be on again tonight, it was on this morning)
 
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Originally posted by L337E46@Jun 7 2003, 09:18 PM
bottom line...

Acura's are built for Economy first... Luxury Second... and performance last...

Remember one of the main facet's of Honda's business is cheap and reliable cars

Acura's are basically Hondas with a more refined yet cheap interior.

Of course if you're stepping up from an economy car or what not you'll be drooling when you see a car with a better interior than the one you currently have.

BMW's are built for Performance first... Luxury second... and economy last...

On the other hand cars such as Porsche's were made to be used on the track and then slowly made their way to the consumer, they're not made to be luxurious at all, although they have leather and all the other knick knacks...

I reccomend that you watch the history of Porsche on the history channel (for all of you that haven't seen it I think it may be on again tonight, it was on this morning)
L337 is right....If the GT3 was available when we bought our 911TT, my dad wouldve bought that, because the power to weight is incredible, and the N/A responisveness. Thats pure porsche, you cant even get a sunroof on a 100k car...its all about performance
 

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if you are thinkin of buying a car i would seriously recommend attending a car show....you can see upcoming models and decide which cars are worth a test drive without going to billions of dealers. I saw a TSX at a car show back in the winter for instance.
 

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try living near dc. i drove 100 miles today, and didn't get above 40 mph many times. and shifting at 3k rpm, does it matter how much performance i get? i just want a smooth ride, and to rev it to 5k rpm at least once when i'm in the car per day.

my sister is leasing the 9-3, it's a nice car! she got the sport seats and they're really comfortable.
 
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in the acura, with the torque so high, it will feel like its not pushing you into your seat, its just SLOWLY accelerating, where as you rev the 325 to 3k itll push you back into your seat....

eric, if you want a smooth ride (why would you?) a 325 without sport package is WAY to soft for my likings. Im saving up for a Dinan Stage 3 suspension for my car (in devolopment or out now, i havent checked in a whilw)......because id sacrifice a harsher ride for better handling performance. With what your explaining the 1.8T would be good, lotsa torque from the turbo, softer ride.....id get it
 

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Originally posted by Spetsnaz Op@Jun 7 2003, 07:50 PM
if you are thinkin of buying a car i would seriously recommend attending a car show....you can see upcoming models and decide which cars are worth a test drive without going to billions of dealers. I saw a TSX at a car show back in the winter for instance.
me too, i saw one in january in philly. i'm all about car shows :rock
 
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