i think he was looking in general, at least that is what i understood from the questionOriginally posted by donutchow@Jun 22 2003, 03:01 PM
are they both manual? post prices and mileage......
I'm confused... Not to be off topic but does that mean that my e46 3er with the 2.5 liter M52TU with dual Vanos shares the same characteristics as the ///M engine? I think the 328 (E46 not E36) has the M54TU. I dunno anything about engines except for the fact that dual Vanos Pwnz...Originally posted by MrM3@Jun 21 2003, 07:40 PM
the E36 328 and M3 basically have the same exact engine, just different displacement 2.8-3.2 so reliability isnt really different between the two, the M3 has slightly better looks, much better performance, and a better interior. it makes more sense to go for the M3 price wise aswell.
mrm3, i dont think so.....the current 3.0 is a massaged version of the 2.5/2.8, where as my engine is based on a completely different block. Id suspect the same would be for the e36 M since it had cast iron block.....and e36's were all aluminum correctOriginally posted by MrM3@Jun 21 2003, 11:40 PM
the E36 328 and M3 basically have the same exact engine, just different displacement 2.8-3.2 so reliability isnt really different between the two, the M3 has slightly better looks, much better performance, and a better interior. it makes more sense to go for the M3 price wise aswell.
mrm3, i dont think so.....the current 3.0 is a massaged version of the 2.5/2.8, where as my engine is based on a completely different block. Id suspect the same would be for the e36 M since it had cast iron block.....and e36's were all aluminum correct [/b][/quote]Originally posted by SpeedsterBMW+Jun 23 2003, 05:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SpeedsterBMW @ Jun 23 2003, 05:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MrM3@Jun 21 2003, 11:40 PM
the E36 328 and M3 basically have the same exact engine, just different displacement 2.8-3.2 so reliability isnt really different between the two, the M3 has slightly better looks, much better performance, and a better interior. it makes more sense to go for the M3 price wise aswell.
speedster your right about the E46 S54, but for the E36's both the M3 and 328 engines were M52's with single-vanos. europe got a new engine, we got a bored out M52. the M54's didnt come around till 2001 with the new 2.5 and 3.0. where as the old 2.8's and 2.5's remained M52's even tho they got double vanos in 1999. [/b][/quote]Originally posted by MrM3+Jun 23 2003, 11:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrM3 @ Jun 23 2003, 11:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 05:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-MrM3@Jun 21 2003, 11:40 PM
the E36 328 and M3 basically have the same exact engine, just different displacement 2.8-3.2 so reliability isnt really different between the two, the M3 has slightly better looks, much better performance, and a better interior. it makes more sense to go for the M3 price wise aswell.
mrm3, i dont think so.....the current 3.0 is a massaged version of the 2.5/2.8, where as my engine is based on a completely different block. Id suspect the same would be for the e36 M since it had cast iron block.....and e36's were all aluminum correct
did the 328 have a cast iron block? cause i know the m3 engine did :huh: [/b][/quote]Originally posted by SpeedsterBMW+Jun 23 2003, 08:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SpeedsterBMW @ Jun 23 2003, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 05:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-MrM3@Jun 21 2003, 11:40 PM
the E36 328 and M3 basically have the same exact engine, just different displacement 2.8-3.2 so reliability isnt really different between the two, the M3 has slightly better looks, much better performance, and a better interior. it makes more sense to go for the M3 price wise aswell.
mrm3, i dont think so.....the current 3.0 is a massaged version of the 2.5/2.8, where as my engine is based on a completely different block. Id suspect the same would be for the e36 M since it had cast iron block.....and e36's were all aluminum correct
speedster your right about the E46 S54, but for the E36's both the M3 and 328 engines were M52's with single-vanos. europe got a new engine, we got a bored out M52. the M54's didnt come around till 2001 with the new 2.5 and 3.0. where as the old 2.8's and 2.5's remained M52's even tho they got double vanos in 1999.
not sure, i know the Z3 2.8L had a aluminum blockOriginally posted by MrM3+Jun 23 2003, 11:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrM3 @ Jun 23 2003, 11:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2003, 05:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-MrM3@Jun 21 2003, 11:40 PM
the E36 328 and M3 basically have the same exact engine, just different displacement 2.8-3.2 so reliability isnt really different between the two, the M3 has slightly better looks, much better performance, and a better interior. it makes more sense to go for the M3 price wise aswell.
mrm3, i dont think so.....the current 3.0 is a massaged version of the 2.5/2.8, where as my engine is based on a completely different block. Id suspect the same would be for the e36 M since it had cast iron block.....and e36's were all aluminum correct
speedster your right about the E46 S54, but for the E36's both the M3 and 328 engines were M52's with single-vanos. europe got a new engine, we got a bored out M52. the M54's didnt come around till 2001 with the new 2.5 and 3.0. where as the old 2.8's and 2.5's remained M52's even tho they got double vanos in 1999.
did the 328 have a cast iron block? cause i know the m3 engine did :huh:
a 1999 328iC is a E36 and it is a convertible, performance would still be far less than the M3 cuz its practically the same car as the m3 just lacking 50hpOriginally posted by eclypser@Jul 30 2003, 12:42 PM
:thumbs Get the 328ic.
Why?
The performance is going to be almost the same. Convertible E36 M3 is slow.
The interior is better on the Coupe.
The convertible has crappy plastic window and plastic cover pieces that keep breaking.
So go with the e46 328ic.