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Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a used 323ci in the next week. I've owned different hondas over the last 4 years and want to give BMW a try. What all is standard on the 323ci? Do they all come with HID headlights? Sunroofs? Do they have a LSD? Is the suspension/ride height the same on all 323ci?

What do these cars w/ a 5 speed run the quarter mile, mid/low 15s? What is the 0-60 time, 7 flat?

What should i be looking for when checking out the car? Do they have the 4year/50,000 mile warranty? Most of the cars i'm looking at have 30-40k and are selling for around $20,000.

Sorry for all of the questions. This forum looks pretty supportive and helpful though.

btw, here a couple pics of my ej2 coupe i sold today.

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Welcome to the Forum. :welcome

Your Honda is very tastefully done, I like it alot. Nice ride.

I cant answer all of those questions but I can answer some of them.

As far as whats standard pretty much just seats and four wheels :p

Seriously though, BMW and Mercedes vehicle are some of the most confiurable cars on the planet when purchased new. I can tell you a 323 is probably NOT going to have Xenon lights but they ARE an option. Sunroof I believe is also an option. Dont know on the LSD. Ride height about the same for all 323. Typically theyll have options like the CD Player, Leather Seating, Sunroof and alot of times the cold weather package depending on where you are.

They have a 4/50 Warranty. Try to stay with the lowest mileage possible of course, probably a 2001 or newer. Listen for any noises that are out of the ordinary on your test drive and im sure other members here can give you a more clear definition of common problems but there arent a whole lot.
 

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since the 323 is the low model, some ppl would fully load them since the 323 is cheaper than the 328 at the time. Yet some may be real cheap and buy the cheapest bmw and not equip them.

A few things you may 'want':
*Sport package - def a bonus. You get sport suspension, sport seats, larger rims..etc. You can def find out by just looking at the seats; if they have huge side bolsters and thigh adjustments, then it has SP
*This is my opinion, but make sure you get the new style steering wheel w/ round airbag. I had the triangle one when I first got my car and it was a challenge for me to convert that to the round/M3 thick wheel. *DEF a gooood future mod.
*An alarm is a good bonus, some bmws do not come with alarms, like mine, i had to buy mine 2 years after i got my car.
*And also, just make sure everything works: AC, heat, radio, speakers, power seats, seat warmers, lights, cabin lights, etc.
 

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comutek;

Congratulations on your choice & welcome.

I bought a 323Ci brand new with only moonroof & wood trim as options. I can definitely say it was well worth the money. Both the 323Ci & 328Ci came with the Sports suspension standard, as well as 16" rims & the multi-function steering wheel. The Ci sits a little lower than the four-door model, but does not come with HID lighting (Xenons optional).

After European delivery and other discounts I felt it was just in my price range at around $27,000 (the domestic M.S.R.P. was $31,500), and today I have no regrets. With the money I saved, I bought a Dinan package & aftermarket Momo rims as well as other little doo-dads over the years, including the BMW alarm. With a manual trans, my car has trounced many a 325, and a few 328s as well. It usually runs 7.1 to sixty stock, but I have seen some pretty quick times posted:

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1907a.shtml

This model does have the 4-year 50k mile warranty, and I think I read somewhere that BMW does offer a warranty extension for a fee, but you can check with your dealer.

Hope this helps.

R.R.
 

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Originally posted by woobiee@Jan 12 2004, 03:17 PM
since the 323 is the low model, some ppl would fully load them since the 323 is cheaper than the 328 at the time. Yet some may be real cheap and buy the cheapest bmw and not equip them.

A few things you may 'want':
*Sport package - def a bonus. You get sport suspension, sport seats, larger rims..etc. You can def find out by just looking at the seats; if they have huge side bolsters and thigh adjustments, then it has SP
*This is my opinion, but make sure you get the new style steering wheel w/ round airbag. I had the triangle one when I first got my car and it was a challenge for me to convert that to the round/M3 thick wheel. *DEF a gooood future mod.
*An alarm is a good bonus, some bmws do not come with alarms, like mine, i had to buy mine 2 years after i got my car.
*And also, just make sure everything works: AC, heat, radio, speakers, power seats, seat warmers, lights, cabin lights, etc.
thanks for the info guys

when you say larger rims do you mean the 7 spoke wheels like these?


when people upgrade their 323ci to HID do they use their stock housing and just purchase a kit or replace the entire headlight assembly/ballasts? how much does that run?

are these cars frequently stolen/broken into if they are left stock? my civic was stolen from me and i had one attempted break in. that's a big part of why i sold it.

almost all of those questions can be answered at www.edmunds.com
some of their info is vague/incorrect. for instance, they show the alarm as being standard on the 323ci but according to woobiee it isn't.
 

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Alarm is NOT standard. Most will have a sunroof, though.

Sounds like a lot of what you are looking at are lease turn-in's. If it was leased, just be careful - BMW owners/leasers generally take better care of their care than a Chevy owner would, but it IS a leased car...

In either case, it's probably worth taking to a reputable mechanic and paying him $50 (1 hour shop charge) to check out the big stuff...
 

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Originally posted by Fangs@Jan 12 2004, 09:07 PM
In either case, it's probably worth taking to a reputable mechanic and paying him $50 (1 hour shop charge) to check out the big stuff...
oh yeah, i've done this w/ both used cars i've purchased.

does anyone know if the 323ci comes w/ a factory LSD?
 

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Comutek -

You've made a good choice in choosing a BMW to replace your Honda. I recently made a similar move, selling my integra GS-R for 325i.

In your original post it sounds like your a little concerned with performance - I was the same way. However, after driving the BMW, the overall driving experience made the 0-60 time/1/4 mile times somewhat meaningless. In my situation, my Acura and BMW have similar 0-60 times, but the BMW feels 10 times faster with the torque advantage. Just something to think about.

Regarding the 323ci, edmunds.com indicates a 0-60 time of 7.1, and I think I recall similar #'s from Car and Driver.

Another thing to consider...perhaps you've already figured this out....if your looking for a 323ci, I believe your limited to a 2000 model year vehicle only. In 1999, the only E46 BMW's were the 323i & 328i (4 doors). In 2001, the 323 was replaced with the 325.

And to answer your question on the wheels on the pic you posted, yes, those are the 17 inch wheels that come with the sport package.

Good luck in your search.
 
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