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post #16 of 71 (permalink) Old 10-23-2004, 03:49 PM
 
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Originally posted by doughboyea+Oct 23 2004, 01:28 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(doughboyea &#064; Oct 23 2004, 01:28 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Hoppy&#39;s535i@Oct 5 2004, 04:21 PM
some of you guys gotta stop hattin on ford, ya they arnt as good as BMW but your not paying as much

and if your gunna compare hp atleast use comparable engines
the M engine isnt comparable sorry.
* but the 4.4 with 325 hp and the vs fords 4.6 with 300 is more realistic. i mean if u want to compare an M to a ford compare it to a gt40

4.4l v8 with 500 hp
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I believe that the comparison was more intune to the design vs power output of thier respective engines. But since your going to campare the GT40 now, the GT40 isn&#39;t a comparable vehicle either. Your right about the 4.4 vs 4.6, thats relatively close in displacement, but when you compare a near &#036;150k "Race Car" to a &#036;60k M, both of which have COMPLETLEY different engines, I&#39;m sorry, that&#39;s still not a "good" comparison. BTW, the Ford GT40 has a Supercharged 5.4L V8 with 550HP and 500lbft vs the current M3&#39;s 3.2L N/A with 333hp. I could be wrong, but this information is from Ford GT40. However, the M5 (with a V8) would match closer to your comparison, BUT, the M5 (2003) doesn&#39;t have a S/C and isn&#39;t anywhere near the GT40&#39;s displacement. The M5 had a 4.9L V8 N/A with 394hp and 369ft-lbs. So S/C the M5 and stroke it up to 5.4L, if even possible, and we&#39;ll see how it performs in power. Maybe the GT40 would still beat it in that reguard... who knows. Unless there&#39;s an M6 comming out that M is willing to do that to (doubtful).

Mind you I&#39;m not trying to bash you, I&#39;m just making sure that we compare the same type of engines/cars, just like you said.

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oh i was unaware it was s/c
my mistake
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Hmm..Ugly car...
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With the new Mustang you either really love it or hate it. I can see they meant to bring back the look Mustang had in the 60s. And I guess most Mustang owners don&#39;t care about the live axle.

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With the new Mustang you either really love it or hate it. I can see they meant to bring back the look Mustang had in the 60s. And I guess most Mustang owners don&#39;t care about the live axle.
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i really like &#39;em. yeah, they&#39;re no &#39;stang from the 60&#39;s, but i think they did a fairly decent job reverting back to the retro design. either way, they&#39;re better looking then those god-aweful 4th gen. bodies.
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I like the new Stang. It&#39;s miles behind a &#39;71 Mach I in my book, but still a dang nice ride.
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Fords are great cars dont get me wrong, but like someone else said, you pay for what you get.

Who cares about the numbers, have you ever sat in a newer(2001) mustang, they are uncomfortable IMO, while my 1991 BMW is spacious, and comfortable. So maybe it gets .5 faster on the quarter mile...who gives a shit, chances are you are never going to race a quarter mile with a Mustang anyways.

Its all opinions, everyones biased towards what they grew up with, or what they own.

atleast thats what i think.

I think the new stangs look decent, and hell maybe i would want one, but I still like my BMW


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Hmmm...Dont like the new stangs..bodu just aint right..I thought stangs were decent..then I rode in the back of my friends 96 GT..man that thing liked to have killed me...wrost ride ever....suspention sucks..hope they have made an improvement...
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way back up there i believe someone said ford has a 4.4 liter 500 horspower
wrong
it is a 5.4 liter 500 horse and it is s/c

that is the same engine that comes out of the pickup ford f150 and the suv ford expedition.
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first of all the 3 link suspension is an unbeliveable improvement over the 4 link. not just an improvement its a very good setup, you bmw people think in solid axil and independent and leaf and coil, what you dont know is there are alot of types of indapendint suspensions, a god dam lumina has fully indendent suspension. what you dont think about is alot of people who buy mustangs want to run under 12 sec 1/4 mile and you cant do that at a track with independent suspension. and if you do your research that suspension is very good. and if you are going to compair the 3.2 333hp M3 you should compair it to the cobra witch is very under rated to say the least at 395hp.
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After all is said and done, I think they did a great job on the look. Just would like it a bit better if the turn lights could be wrenched free from the brake lights used

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First of all, just to educate you all on american engineering:

1. The beloved corvette Z06 has leaf springs. It also handles as well as an M3 around the track. The upcoming C6 handles BETTER than an M3 CSL&#33;&#33;&#33; on LEAF SPRINGS. Don&#39;t doubt american engineering, there are reasons for everything.

2. Solid rear axles keep costs down, if the mustang had independent rear suspension as standard, it would cost alot more and require a much more exotic suspension setup to get the same performance in a straight line. Remember, Ford is a greedy money grubbing whore. The Cobra and concept GTR both have exotic independent rear suspension setups. It is rumored that the GT will have it as a cost option.
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haha sorry man that was just too funny because of what you were trying to say
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ya i mean that wasnt even close to a word.
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haha sorry man that was just too funny because of what you were trying to say
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1. I have never raced a mustang in my BMW. However, I did race several in my old 1986 Saab 9000 turbo. 2.0L, pumping 18PSI and a pathetic 215whp (I just cranked the boost and didn&#39;t modify injector mapping so I was running WAY lean) I walked away from GTs and totally spanked V6s. I also laughed my ass off while doing so. The old 4.0L V8s sucked balls. Big hairy sweaty balls.

The new mustang does rock pretty well in a straight line, however, the live axle is a disappointment. An open diff would be an improvement, because I&#39;m sure that the GT could handle cornering fairly well with a good suspension.

Of course you compare the M3 to the Cobra. However, as many have said, drag racing an M3 is like fishing with a hooker, it&#39;s fun but it&#39;s not what you got her for. If you want to drag race, a Mustang is a much more cost effective option, if you want to hit canyons and road courses, a BMW is much much much much better.

A mustang Cobra R can match a modded Elise on the track.


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