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post #16 of 83 (permalink) Old 08-27-2004, 10:54 PM
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i have 530i. i love the car's looks and handling. i blow cars away on freeway turns all of the time - not many sports cars can hang with this sedan when it comes to hi speed turns. wish i had the 545 for off the line power, but the 530 is ok considering the cost and points of tickets in maryland. got a ticket for 87 first day i owned the car. i was on the brakes so hard - i figure i knocked at least 10-15 mph off my ticket by braking.

none the less here are my issues (i am not wasting my time w/ getting anything fixed):

1. I have received the DDS error once from going around a 90 degree turn floored from a dead stop. the system reset itself after a restart. however i notice my friends 545 has much tighter steering at low speeds like mine used to be...i don't think my low speed turning works any more.

2. Occasionaly when windows are going up on auto, they stop and go back down about 3/4 of the way up.

3. Once the radio quit working and the cd volume would not go up. after parking the car and taking the keys out of the ignition, the radio made an am sound that would not stop. i started and turned off the car three times and nothing would stop the noise. the next morning everything worked fine.

4. twice my instrument cluster has turned off while driving. doing 60-70 mph my speed said 0, the rpm said 0 and the electronics went out. i bet the lease milage was still working!!

5. this is what pisses me off the most...when i bought the car i was told by two dealerships that the new 5 had a "fiber optic modular network" that allowed components like nav, sirius and bluetooth to be loaded at any time. when i ordered my 5 i wanted the black interior w/ black wood - silver or grey exterior. the inventory at the time was low, so my options were slim to none. so i got one w/o nav knowing i could add it. i am now told the following from bmw:

1. you can never add nav to an 04 5 if it did not ship with nav
2. 04 5's with nav will never allow sirius to work
3. bluetooth does not have a release date

6. and last but not least is the idrive. it sucks. for example, while driving, try to adjust the level and temperature of the air blowing on your dates/passengers feet?? or, note that everytime you start the car the idrive does not know where you were last. so if you want to change the radio station via the idrive, you have to go through the entire menu system to get to the radio. the controls on the sterring wheel always remember. so somehow the sterring wheel without the computer is smarter than the new idrive system. nice job. not sure if this is the idrive or not, but you can't stop the cd. when you turn off the stereo via the dash dial the cd still plays?? try it and let me know if i'm iDrive challenged?

i am glad i leased this car. i would not want to own it once the warranties up!!! i am going to see if i can get another car over the nav problem. i get lost all of the time, so i would have never spent $55k on a car w/o nav. mercedes allowed all 03 e class owners to trade thier 03 cars in on 04s for free because thier nav never worked for that model year as promised when it released.

good luck to all. u have to admit the car is hot and handles better than 70% of of two door sports cars on the market. the 04 5 is ever bit of the ultimate driving machine when it works.
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This is one amazing post/thread. A new car worth tens of thousands of dollars and carries the words "ultimate Machine" and rightly so if I may add. But Please note the following:
1. The number of viewers to this post is already close to 1850
2. The number of replies is 15
3. Very high numbers indeed.
4. I think our conclusions should have been very clear by now:

1. Granted: We all know that BMW is one of the best cars regardless of how many problems we ecounter.

2. This leads me to remind everyone including myself to try as much as possible to WAIT OUT on buying a new model in the first year of its production. This holds true of many cars. Car manufacturer rely heavely on their customers feedback. In a sense the customer is the final judge in their long journey of experiments with the new model. And may well take them 2-5 years to debug the whole system. In conclusion: by next year the 545 will be debugged probably by 30%-50% and another 30%-50% in the following 2-3 years--depending on A. how many recalls B. How many warranty related services and complains-- like what we have on this thread above.

At the end of the day (I suspect) it becomes a matter of a priority: whether we ought to jump into a hot ultimate machine knowing we'll encounter some moderate to severe problems; or just wait it out until it gets into its ULTIMATE conclusion. That is of being the perfect car we all know.
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How do you like the SMG, NAV and HUD? I just ordered a 2005 545 six-speed with NAV and HID. Pick it up in early October in Munich
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I have a 2004 530i with the premium package and the dynamic handling package.

I have several problems with it:
1. There is a rattle in the passenger window when the car moves. It often occurs when I brake, accelerate or go over bumps.
2. There is a creaking in the driver&#39;s seat when I move around in it.
3. There seems to be a click, almost like a beep, coming from the rear right wheel well when the car is in motion. I only hear it when the car is moving slowly.

Any idea what these things may be?

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My 530d has had a host of problems and several still have to be corrected:

On delivery:
1. One park distance control sensor in the front was faulty
2. I did not receive the latest Satelite Navigation CD
3. The battery was flat
(How it passed PDI, I am clueless)

Four months later, the park distance control was fixed last week and I&#39;m still waiting on my CD

Since I have had the car:

1. The drivers window and door rattle on bumpy roads
2. The car creaks (body shift) when I reverse out of my drive way
3. The run flat tyre indictator failed on the last software upgrade. Germany is aware of the problem and releasing a software patch next month
4. BMW were unable to wheel alignment on my car as I chose the largest tyres possible on the car and their equiptment was not designed to work with such large tyres
5. The satelite navigation system is inferior to that of the 3 series, often giving 300 metres (300 yards) warning before having to change 6 lanes to take an off ramp. The 3 series gave 1km (3/4 mile warning)
6. My eletric fold in mirrors no longer fold in after the last software upgrade
7. The seat memory and mirror memory go slightly out of sync from time to time, where a mirror is pointing somewhere that shows me no back view (not be confused with auto dip, which I switched off)
8. Brake pads required an early change, BMW sorted out
9. The hood would not close after the first service. Required 3 attempts to correct the problem with a loose something that keeps it shut

Irritations:

1. One must use the Idrive to adjust aircon settings. There is more then enough place on the dash for it. The driver must nearly drive off the road to turn from aircon cold to aircon hot.
2. The steering wheel hides the park lights switch at my height
3. Switching from Radio to CD requires Idrive and distraction
4. Satilite navigation CD takes up the front loader. On the 3 series it is in the trunk.

That&#39;s about all I can remember at the moment. The car has to go back for some more work. Hopefully BMW can correct the problems and I can have a fully working car.
 
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1. One must use the Idrive to adjust aircon settings. There is more then enough place on the dash for it. The driver must nearly drive off the road to turn from aircon cold to aircon hot.
You do not have to use iDrive to change the temperature.

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Then you can raise or lower your seat.

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You can program a steering wheel button to do this
 
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1. One must use the Idrive to adjust aircon settings. There is more then enough place on the dash for it. The driver must nearly drive off the road to turn from aircon cold to aircon hot.
You do not have to use iDrive to change the temperature.

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2. The steering wheel hides the park lights switch at my height
Then you can raise or lower your seat.

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3. Switching from Radio to CD requires Idrive and distraction
You can program a steering wheel button to do this
1. There are indivual temp. dials under the radio that you turn to dial the temp you want; colder or hotter

2. You can raise/lower the steering wheel as well or one can take a few moments and memorize the switch settings.

3. When you insert a CD it should automatically override the radio.

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I had an error message that the Dynamic Drive was turned off and to reduce cornering speeds. A "valve block" was replaced, what ever that is.

There is also a California recall the have the emissions control system checked.

All my other problems except for the electronic thermostat control "ticking" have been resolved.

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I leased the 545i (Sport package, SMG, Premium Sound) in April and have clocked around 9,200 miles. Considering some of the posts I should consider myself lucky - however the laundry list of annoying issues that I&#39;ve "experienced" include:
1. Engine cutting out after "Clutch Overheating" - sign came on. Took the car into the dealership and was told "driving in stop and go traffic should be avoided. In the very least try not to ride the gas pedal or wait for a gap in traffic to build before accelerating into it&#33;" - I&#39;d defy anyone to try that going over the George Washington Bridge on a Sunday night after a Yankee game&#33;
2. The run flat tires provide false readings - told to "just ignore the warning and keep checking the tire pressure&#33;"
3. Active Control stopped working on several occasions - Told "just turn off the engine unti lthe warning disappears&#33;"
4. At slower speeds the engine seems to get confused as to what gear to go into so the engine hesitates for a second. I pull into my drive (doing say 30 mph) and then as I begin to go up it the engine pauses for a second and then almost stalls. Have to manually work down the gears to ensure smooth progression.

Shame to spend a reasonable amount on what I thought was going to be the "ultimate driving machine&#33;" I typically assume these problems are somehow my fault, however reading these posts has been very helpful - thanks.

Last point - was interested that when called by BMW (or survey co.) when expressing my dissatisfaction the operator asked if I wanted to speak to someone from BMW - when I said yes I was put on hold, waited, waited, waited and then finally gave up - seems like a lot of fake consumer concern to me&#33;
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Shame to spend a reasonable amount on what I thought was going to be the "ultimate driving machine&#33;" I typically assume these problems are somehow my fault, however reading these posts has been very helpful - thanks.

Last point - was interested that when called by BMW (or survey co.) when expressing my dissatisfaction the operator asked if I wanted to speak to someone from BMW - when I said yes I was put on hold, waited, waited, waited and then finally gave up - seems like a lot of fake consumer concern to me&#33;
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Sounds like you need a software update from the dealer. "don&#39;t drive in stop and go traffic is a b.s. instruction. Cars should be able to drive wherever and whenever, especially a high tech car like the 545.

Check out forums.e60.net for mre info on the E60.

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I have a 545i manufactured in April 04 and arrived in May 04. Two very serious problems:

1) 600 miles: car looses all power after active steering fault. Car was running for approx. one minute and I was turning on a red light. never started it, had it towed. The car recorded two faults which BMW was able to read back. There was a firmware upgrade posted on the BMW "Tech Hotline". This was suppose to fix the problem. At this point, I&#39;m freaking out. 70K for a car and I worried about it loosing power at 100+.

2) 4500 miles: car looses all power. No detectable fault. Car was running for approx one minute and I was coming to a stop sign when it happened. no warnings, no faults recorded; started it back up and drove it to BMW. They have had the car for 3 days and still don&#39;t know what the problem is.

Apparently the recall was only for cars after May so my car did not get it. TCR, when was your car manufactured? How were your problems resolved?

I&#39;m wondering if I can get them to take this car back or give me my money back&#33;

Very scared to drive it.
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Yikes ...

You folks are making me a bit leary of purchasing an &#39;05 530i.

I&#39;ve never owned a BMW, but have always been impressed whenever I have ridden in one. I realize the problems with owning a 1.0 version (first model year) of any redesigned vehicle - I am currently leasing an &#39;02 VW Passat W8. However, I thought that BMW would have a better handle on things than this.

Maybe I&#39;m being a bit too harsh here ... or maybe I just need to look at a used 5 series instead

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Originally posted by Josh_953@Sep 6 2004, 03:00 AM
I have a 2004 530i with the premium package and the dynamic handling package.

I have several problems with it:
1. There is a rattle in the passenger window when the car moves. It often occurs when I brake, accelerate or go over bumps.
2. There is a creaking in the driver&#39;s seat when I move around in it.
3. There seems to be a click, almost like a beep, coming from the rear right wheel well when the car is in motion. I only hear it when the car is moving slowly.

Any idea what these things may be?

Thanks.
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It seems to be a familur situation with BMW when they release a new car that the first production models are &#39;guinea pigs&#39;. I own the 3 series and in know that the early e36&#39;s suffered a load of problems, most serious interior trim issues.
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Originally posted by TCR@Jul 22 2004, 11:20 PM
My problems with my new 545 are bad. I am not sure if others had experienced similar problems.

Problem #1
- Got &#39;Engine too hot warning&#39; message. I took the car to the dealer and after few days of delay the dealer said that it is most likely a software issue and updated the software

- Few days later got the same message and before I could get to the dealer, the radiator water boiled out and spilled all over. Got the vehicle towed away to the dealer and after few days the dealer found the problem. It turns out the radiator fan was not working at all.

Problem #2
This is a very dangerous one.

While driving the car and taking a turn, the steering went rock hard (like stuck) and displayed the message &#39;Active Steering Initializing&#39;. Luckily it was late in the night and I safely got to the curbside. On restarting the engine, the steering got unstuck.

Now the car is with the dealer and they are trying to figure out what is wrong. I am scared to drive the car..

Had anybody had similar experience?

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Holy crap&#33; #2 is dangerous&#33; what if you were doing some spirited driving on a curvy road?
"active steering initializing" that sounds like the computer tried to initialize the "software" but then sort of froze. You know? like sometimes your PC freezes up? I think they ought to stick with a more mechanical BMW and just let the computers monitor stuff like the e39 generation... that would probably cause a lot less problems.
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