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Old 10-16-2004, 12:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Aight... I think this is honesly the first time I've actually posted in this forum... but I got a question for you clean freaks....

I waxed my car three months ago... maybe more.. cant exactly remember.... but I used the Miguiers three step stuff... the paint cleaner... wax.. and polish.. something like that.. ( I told you I dont know crap about this stufff )...

My point is.. this stuff IMO is great... I have the same water resistance and shine as the day I did this... no fading what so ever.... every wash I've given her.. since I waxed... I've used Miguiers quick detail stuff... afterwards.....

So tell me why you all argue over which waxes are the best.. and such.. when I have no problem keeping up the shine.. and protection? I also live in NC.. where it freaking rains every other day... and acidic rain is a regular thing...

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i use meguiars, love it. some enjoy spending money and special ordering stuff like zaino, is it worth it? wouldnt know i havent tried it
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Old 10-16-2004, 12:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Werd to that man... I love that stuff.... then agian.. I've never tried the others.. reason why I was asking why you guys argue about this and that wax... and how long they last...

3-4 strong... in harsh conditions is proof enough for me...

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Any one got better ones that hold up to the weather?
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If you do as you have, that's better than most. I'm sure it looks great.

But I've been doing this for a long time (not that you haven't) and have done like many and continued to search for "the deepest shine." It's not necessary, but why not.

I too use the stage one Meguire's, but prefer Zymol wax, Blue Coral Sufrace Sealant, and Turtle Wax Ultra Gloss as a suplement to each wash to maintain that just waxed shine. --->
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If you do as you have, that's better than most. I'm sure it looks great.

But I've been doing this for a long time (not that you haven't) and have done like many and continued to search for "the deepest shine." It's not necessary, but why not.

I too use the stage one Meguire's, but prefer Zymol wax, Blue Coral Sufrace Sealant, and Turtle Wax Ultra Gloss as a suplement to each wash to maintain that just waxed shine. --->
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Your right, it does work, but to a degree that pleases you. There are other products out there that will perform as well, maybe for cheaper, maybe for twice as much! Again other products that will outperform for twice as much. Car detailing is a very personal thing, and so are car care products. People like smell, consistancy, color etc..... I used Megs #80 and NXT on two cars I did yesterday, the owner said they looked better than the day he bought it. Megs makes a line of product called the consumer line (Maroon bottles) for DIY'ers. And its designed for ease of use. They also make a professional line, for folks like myself who apply product with machines. There a little more trickier to use, and yield deeper cutting action, shinier, longer lasting. But like i said above I used NXT yesterday, and am totally happy with its results! I think its the best thing going for white. I use Blackfire or Fourstar for dark colors, I use Klasse for people who neglect their cars, because it lasts and lasts.. I use Clearkote Vanilla Moose hand glaze or Moosewax for wash and waxes, because i can use it in the sun, and its extremely user friendly, with average durability. I really dont think there is one product for every situation, different products respond differently to different colors, thats been my observation as a detailer.
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Car detailing is a very personal thing, and so are car care products. People like smell, consistancy, color etc..... I used Megs #80 and NXT on two cars I did yesterday, the owner said they looked better than the day he bought it. Megs makes a line of product called the consumer line (Maroon bottles) for DIY'ers. And its designed for ease of use. They also make a professional line, for folks like myself who apply product with machines. There a little more trickier to use, and yield deeper cutting action, shinier, longer lasting. But like i said above I used NXT yesterday, and am totally happy with its results! I think its the best thing going for white. I use Blackfire or Fourstar for dark colors, I use Klasse for people who neglect their cars, because it lasts and lasts.. I use Clearkote Vanilla Moose hand glaze or Moosewax for wash and waxes, because i can use it in the sun, and its extremely user friendly, with average durability. I really dont think there is one product for every situation, different products respond differently to different colors, thats been my observation as a detailer.
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I agree with most of that.

NXT definately lasts longer than the Ultra Gloss I mentioned, but it is MUCH more time consuming to apply.

I don't care for Klasse, as I do engough finish maintenance to not warrant it. It is much too time consuming when stripping before waxing.

The professional grade stuff is more than most need or desire as it is a process. I wouldn't buy a car that NEEDED it, as it would be a tell tale sign that other aspects may have been neglected.

But like you said there are too many variables to determine a best product. Merely the right tools for the job. :wink
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I like the Meguiar's setup as well. However, I'm looking at waxing it again this weekend- something salty this way comes. Winter salt and slush kill wax, at least here.
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Skip the third step of the meguiars process. Use one of thier other waxes such as the Gold Class or the NXT Tech Wax. It works much better and gives your paint much more depth.
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I'm a Zaino fan.........Z1/Z2/Z5/Z6...........sealants last much longer than waxes IMO.
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I just used the first two step of the Miguiers stuff... the cleaner and the polish.. and then I used Zymol wax for the third step... It looks great.. I have uploaded some pictures in the pic forum under "Random Pic"... the latest pictures are directly after my wax today...

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Nice. I'm a big fan of Zymol. Good stuff.
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Ok.. I dont know if this is a problem or not.. but I used what I said earlier ... miguiers.. then a coat of zymol... now it looks like my paint is greasy.... and oily... the directions for the zymol say use a little water after application... I did.. but I can still see swirl... marks... that I can make with my finger and a clean cotton rag... it just looks oily.. Jllphan... any idea.. does this happen???

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Ok.. I dont know if this is a problem or not.. but I used what I said earlier ... miguiers.. then a coat of zymol... now it looks like my paint is greasy.... and oily... the directions for the zymol say use a little water after application... I did.. but I can still see swirl... marks... that I can make with my finger and a clean cotton rag... it just looks oily.. Jllphan... any idea.. does this happen???

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