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Old 06-30-2004, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys
I used to take my ride to the carwash and get it cleaned but I just found out that we should not take our cars to brushed car washes. I am confused now, are touchless car washes ones which do not use any brushes to scrub against the car ? how does it clean then.

Also I am going to start taking my car to the manual carwash and clean it myself. So I should not use the foam brush there too ? Also does one apply wax to the car before or after the wash.
Can someone give me a brief simple rundown on what I should do when I go to wash it. I mean I know all the stuff in the manual car wash but what should I put on it after the wash to make it shine ?
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Old 06-30-2004, 07:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i believe that it has been said that there are chemicals in the water that are not good for the plastics and rubber sealents on your car. It is probably best for the long run to clean your car yourself.

i am too a total noob when it comes to cleaning... dont feel bad..
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ya. by hand is best.

if you look around in here there are lots of great links off site detailing info and lots of good info here as well..
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hey thanks guys
when you mean "by hand" , how do you guys do it ? with 2 buckets ? the reason I ask this is because I live in an apt and have no access to a hose. So was thinking of going to the maunal car wash and at intervals put a little money and use their water hose....kinda stupid, but is there another option ?
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use the manual car wash, just dont use their chemicals... use the soap and water only
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If the manual carwash has an automatic machine there, the manual and automatic share the same chemical\soap resuvars. So the manual wash is using the same detergant as the touchless is. The chemicals arn't bad, my father use to own a car wash and I'd help out in the pump room all the time. (sold the wash, still owns the land that it sit's on, we got tired of managing it) Most commonly, we'd buy Blue Coral chemical barrels in 50 gal. drums. Touchless\manual, the chemicals are the same, it's just soap.

As far as water, we used city water, no different than what comes out your hose.
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but these manual car washes have the bubbly foam brush ...dont use that ?
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You can, I'd spray it off with rinse water first to make sure there's not dirt\grit on it (which would be HELL on your paint)
I'd stay away from it unless you KNOW there isn't dirt on it, you can seriously scratch stuff up if there's sand\small rocks on it.

Just imagine the pickup trucks that go mud riding in the woods somewhere and use that brush to help get all the mud and crap off... enough of it stays on the brush for months where it can mess up your paint. (and I HATED cleaning and unclogging the drains after those bastards use the manual wash.
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IF you must go to a do-it-yourself car wash, don't use the brush. It is terriblely abrasive, and is generally designed and used to remove mud from a truck's rocker panel. Take a bucket with you filled with all your washing needs (soap, wash mit, chamois, tire wet, etc.) The following tips should help....

Always wash your car in the shade and keep it wet the entire time to prevent water spotting (I ususally spray my car 8-10 times in between rinsing just to keep it wet)

Use a wash mit, or something very dense (I'm not big on most sponges) if not sand and bits will inbed in it and could scratch your car.

I am a huge fan of Zymol products and use their wash, after wash, and wax

Start from the top and work your way down.

Use something different to clean your wheels, tires, and fender wells so you don't jack up your wash mit.

Buy an Absorber (synthetic chanmois) to dry the car off, then take it around the block to get the water out of the cracks.

Use Zymol (or your preference) spray detailer and work in with a micrfiber towel (purchased at autozone).

This should get you off to a good start.
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hey
jilphan thx a lot again, ur the man....
thanks a lot everyone else.....got me geared up now...for the interior dash is just regular dash spray good ?
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I like the low gloss stuff, and use ArmourAll low gloss. If you like the shiny stuff, 2001 looks and smells nice.

For leather (seats) search and find Lexol (not easily found) I swear to God, it is the best stuff on the planet.
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Yeah, i'd shy away from using the brush at the car wash. Even if it is "clean" (i use that term loosely) the brush itself will possibly just create swirls and marring in your paint.

Your best bet is to take your own washmit or sponge (i recomment the former) and use it to clean the car after you spray it down.

If you apply a cleaner wax of some sort after you clean it will protect your car's paint in between washes. A decent wax will last you through several washes and will make it easier to clean off dirt. A Quick detailer would also work.

Another option if you don't have access to an outside hose is to use Protect All's Quick & Easy Wash, affectionately reffered to as QEW. Their Webpage is here...
I haven't used the product yet, mainly because i have access to a hose ... but i know many who have used and it rave taht it does what it says. With this stuff, you just mix it into a bucket of water ... clean the car ... and dry. No rinsing or hoses.

I don't think its available locally, but if you wanna read more about it, go to Autopia.org and to a search for "QEW"

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anyone tried maguiars products compared to zymol? particualry the leather cleaner??
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Since washing a car you love is not dependent on the car's make, here's how I do it:

Put her in the shade.
I always start out washing off the dirt by highpressure using normal tapwater.
After that I use 2-3 buckets of water and shampoo(average car shampoo will do) to go over it by hand, using a CLEAN sponge. Use a lot of water. Better to rinse the sponge a couple of times more then to be sorry afterwards when looking at your paint in the sun. After having washed it manually I rinse it once again using the highpressure hose thingy.
Then I dry it by using a fresh laundred soft towel. The larger the better.
Occasionaly I will wax her using Turtle Wax Excalibur.
After that I give her a little kiss and watch her shine in the sun. B)


(NEVER EVER WIPE OFF THAT UNFORTUNATE OCCASIONAL BIRD SHIT WITH DRY KITCHENTISSUE.)
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hey guys
i washed my car and it went quite good (althou it was a b*tch to keep payin 2 bucks to use the hose at the manual wash for like 1 min).....anyways after i washed and dried it i began to apply the zymbol was with an applicator pad and right after rubbing the wax in i would wipe it off with a chamois cloth. is that the right thing to do ? cuz like the next day i saw like chalkish powdery marks on the car from the wax....i didnt rinse the car after a wax dont know if that was it.
also what exactly is rain-x ? anyone use it ?
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