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#1 (permalink) Old 10-03-2004, 06:15 PM
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As it says.. here she is, two coats. It has rained since the waxing... but I think it looks decent. I didn't use any Zaino or other expensive product. All I used was a generic off the shelf Carbauna Wax called KIT. Man it's hard to polish a black car....

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Let us know how long the KIT wax lasts.
It would interesting to compare to the high end stuff.
You should try some acrylic polish. It lasts longer than carnuba.
Some people put acrylic on first, then carnuba.

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Let us know how long the KIT wax lasts.
It would interesting to compare to the high end stuff.
You should try some acrylic polish. It lasts longer than carnuba.
Some people put acrylic on first, then carnuba.
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Right... good, I'll post back in this post in a week? month? we'll see... but remeber, that's only two coats (put on in the same time period). It's not like some here whom have used dozens of layers (sometimes applying a new coat once a week). So two coats, applied ONCE, on Oct 1.....

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Keep in mind, if any wax you use has any type oc cleaner in it, layering is ill advised. Cleaners will remove the previous application.
Waxes without cleaners wont clean, or brighten the paint. You should really get into the habit of polishing prior to waxing or sealing.

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Keep in mind, if any wax you use has any type oc cleaner in it, layering is ill advised. Cleaners will remove the previous application.
Waxes without cleaners wont clean, or brighten the paint. You should really get into the habit of polishing prior to waxing or sealing.
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Whatever man, All I did was just wash and wax with the KIT product which is suppose to enrich any old or faded paint color. Example, my mother's old '82 Mercedes 240D had a faded hood. The whole car was blue but the hood was nearly white. Using this shit made it match the rest of the car, perfectly.

Anyhow, it's been over a week and the car is still shinny, of course it's got road grime on it and dust, but another quick rinse would solve that. I believe the product was like $6 and it came with a sponge to apply the wax. Directions indicate that you should wash the car then apply a layer of the product to the body in sections with circular motions. Dab the sponge in water prior to applying wax to increase it's effectivness. I'll post a pic as soon as I can.

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btw, exceldetail, reguarding ur concern to the layering process, I only mentioned that in the previous post as some on this forum utilize Zaino products on thier cars, though I don't see the need to dish out the $100+/- for it, they do use a particular method of layering thier cleaners, polishes and waxes.

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Originally posted by doughboyea+Oct 12 2004, 10:28 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(doughboyea @ Oct 12 2004, 10:28 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-exceldetail@Oct 12 2004, 12:04 PM
Keep in mind, if any wax you use has any type oc cleaner in it, layering is ill advised. Cleaners will remove the previous application.
Waxes without cleaners wont clean, or brighten the paint. You should really get into the habit of polishing prior to waxing or sealing.
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Whatever man, All I did was just wash and wax with the KIT product which is suppose to enrich any old or faded paint color. Example, my mother's old '82 Mercedes 240D had a faded hood. The whole car was blue but the hood was nearly white. Using this shit made it match the rest of the car, perfectly.

Anyhow, it's been over a week and the car is still shinny, of course it's got road grime on it and dust, but another quick rinse would solve that. I believe the product was like $6 and it came with a sponge to apply the wax. Directions indicate that you should wash the car then apply a layer of the product to the body in sections with circular motions. Dab the sponge in water prior to applying wax to increase it's effectivness. I'll post a pic as soon as I can.

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btw, exceldetail, reguarding ur concern to the layering process, I only mentioned that in the previous post as some on this forum utilize Zaino products on thier cars, though I don't see the need to dish out the $100+/- for it, they do use a particular method of layering thier cleaners, polishes and waxes.
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Not a problem. Just sharing a wealth of experience with you folks. The cliche stands, "You get what you pay for"....But im like you in belief that i dont have a need for $100.00 items when 1/2 of that is more than sufficient. You spend thousand of dollars of these cars but are only willing to shell out $6.00 for protecting the finish? To each their own.....Next time you wish to apply products in a circular motion, dont ask yourself why you have swirl marks. All applications and product removal SHOULD be performed in straight lines.

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.....Next time you wish to apply products in a circular motion, dont ask yourself why you have swirl marks. All applications and product removal SHOULD be performed in straight lines.
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I don't see any swirl marks in his pics. His results belie your conclusion.

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Originally posted by Silver4evr+Oct 12 2004, 05:49 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Silver4evr @ Oct 12 2004, 05:49 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-exceldetail@Oct 12 2004, 10:36 AM
.....Next time you wish to apply products in a circular motion, dont ask yourself why you have swirl marks. All applications and product removal SHOULD be performed in straight lines.
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I don't see any swirl marks in his pics. His results belie your conclusion.
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I never said he had them, but to avoid them, straight lines should be used. Personally, i wouldnt show pics of swirl marks in a pic even if there were some! Not a great selling point if your a detailer Silver.
See any difference in photos ? Dough, please take no offense, none intended.
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Difference is that you've got a better camera that I have.

If I were to apply in strips, i'd have scratch strips up and down the car... so it'd be the same either way. Besides, this is cheap, and it does protect. But of course, I could be wrong reguarding UV protection and all that. I'd love to get Zaino and spend a half day applying that on, getting a brilliant shine, but for now, using this stuff, while it lasts is alright by me. Looks good and is smooth, I'm sure if I clay it, it'd be ever better. My camera doesn't do it justice.

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Difference is that you've got a better camera that I have.*

If I were to apply in strips, i'd have scratch strips up and down the car... so it'd be the same either way.* Besides, this is cheap, and it does protect.* But of course, I could be wrong reguarding UV protection and all that.* I'd love to get Zaino and spend a half day applying that on, getting a brilliant shine, but for now, using this stuff, while it lasts is alright by me.* Looks good and is smooth, I'm sure if I clay it, it'd be ever better.* My camera doesn't do it justice.

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I didnt use Zaino....That was a Polymer product, I think it was Blackfire. My point is how often do you see swirls on dark cars vs. your so described "scratch strips"? Straight scratches are optically challenged by your eyes, whereas swirls are visible from ALL angles. try it, you'll like it. Your Beamer deserves better than Kit my friend. Thats alos the cheapest camera Fuji makes, cost a whopping $160.00 of QVC. Probably $120.00 at Best Buy !!

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Well, here we go, one week later (actually almost 2 weeks). The original luster is still present, though a bit muted. The men that take care of the lawns here have raised up alot of dust, so my car is covered in it. I have not washed it or rewaxed it. And it hasn't rained. I've driven a few hundred miles since the last photos were posted.

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Heat and sun is Carnaubas worst enemy. Expect better results in cooler climates. You should get at least 4 weeks with that Kit stuff. Remember once the surface hits about 175 deg's, its about gone!

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Ummm... ok exceldetail, for the money, I think it's good, and it's still shiny .

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PS, it's fall in NJ... the temps don't go past 70F anymore, stays mainly in the mid 60's and down to the upper 40's at night.

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