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Old 06-20-2004, 09:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey folks,
Just added a '95 525 to the family. Wooohooo.

But it has a couple of odd chips in it. It looks like its dirt but actually its chips, across the doors. Small though.

Was thinking of using the chip stick from turtle wax. Anyone used it with success? Some say it has to be reapplied, but how good is it?
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download this free book from the internet.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/freeguide.html

go to paint clinic ( i think) and it shows u you to properly repair a scratch/chip....

it involves wetsanding, compounding, and then just another polish to take out the maring from the first compound to bring full gloss back!
that was just a veryyy short summary and u will need to read the section in the book to fully understand it... and dont worry cuase he was even using an M3 in his pictures in that section!

u will aslo need touchup paint, dont get the pen, get the little bottle and u can use a toothpick to apply the paint, you will se why.

http://www.paintscratch.com/

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i used it on my dads black truck... it worked pretty schweet
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Check out the forum FAQ on scratch/chip removal <---click here.
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problem with the chipstick:

You have a clearcoat. I forgot the line, but I heard one once stating using a chipstick is as useful as painting a window. Not the wording, but the same idea.
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Check out the forum FAQ on scratch/chip removal <---click here.
you can save a ton of money and just wetsand instead of using the langka, it is surprizing easy!

get 2000 grit sandpaper...
a couple unused pensels
whole puncher
sement glue

cut a couple wholes outa the sandpaper and glue them on the pensils... then them sit over night and then the next day let them soke in water for about 30 min. then u can we proseed to wetsand

now if your repairing touchup paint then u will have to do that first...then u do the wetsand.....then compound....then final polish!

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Chip sticks sucks, dont use it.
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you can save a ton of money and just wetsand instead of using the langka, it is surprizing easy!
Do you have any pics of the work you've done with this method?
Please post them so we can see how to do this.
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I tried that wax stick and thought it was poo.

You want to try something called cutting paste. It is slight abrasive and work great on light marks. If the chips are deep then it isn't so helpful.

Is it bad enough to warrant getting a nice respray? B)
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Originally posted by Silver4evr+Jun 22 2004, 11:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Silver4evr @ Jun 22 2004, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-schneider252@Jun 21 2004, 12:28 AM

you can save a ton of money and just wetsand instead of using the langka, it is surprizing easy!
Do you have any pics of the work you've done with this method?
Please post them so we can see how to do this. [/b][/quote]
i have yet to do this... but i have the sand paper and everthing im just waiting to order my final polish products..... but silver i have read a bunch of articals and threads in forums of ppl doing it with pictures.... i will see if i can copy it from the E book i always talk about
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go here to find all the pictures too: http://www.bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=27


Youíd be hard pressed to find a car on the road that does not have paint chips and parking lot scratches. While good detailing practices canít prevent nicks and scratches, repairing them will restore your carís ďlike newĒ appearance. In this article, I discuss the methods Iíve used for years to repair chips and minor scratches.

WHAT'S POSSIBLE & WHAT ISN'T
Touching up small nicks and scratches is well within the skill level of most do-it-yourself car enthusiasts. Some nicks can be quickly repaired with a small dab of touch-up paint, while others will require more time, effort and skill. Itís important to know what you should and shouldnít tackle based on your knowledge of paint and tools.

By far the easiest colors to repair are black and white. Black and white are very forgiving on shade variations. Conversely, metallic paints (those with metal flakes) can be quite difficult to match perfectly.


Before you get started repairing nicks and scratches, you should know what to expect. Small nicks are easy to repair by filling the nick with paint, leveling the filled area, and buffing the repair area to blend and restore luster. Repairing small scratches, from a key or shopping cart, is similar, but more time consuming. Fixing a ding (a small dent which may or may not have a nick out of the paint) is not commonly possible by the do-it-yourselfer.

Here are some other things you should know:

If you know your carís factory paint code, you can purchase an exact color match touch-up paint from your local dealer. If you donít know the factory paint code, look in your ownerís manual for the location of the code, or ask your dealer. If you have a late model car, chances are you will find a color match at your local auto parts store.

Use a small artistís paint brush (#2 is ideal) or a round, wooden toothpick to apply the touch-up paint, not the fat brush included with the bottle of touch-up paint.

Always test the touch-up paint for color match in an inconspicuous area.

The area to be repaired must be perfectly clean and free of wax, rust and oils.

Donít attempt a touch-up if the temperature is below 60 degrees F.

Hereís what you need to properly repair nicks and scratches:

Color matched touch-up paint

Automotive or metal primer

Citric acid based cleaner like P21S Total Auto Wash

Prep solvent (Prepsol) or denatured alcohol

Foam swabs (from electronics supply) or pop swabs containing alcohol

Meguiarís Unigrit Sanding Block and 1200 grit wet & dry sand paper

3M medium grit hand rubbing compound

#2 Artistís paint brush and round toothpicks (wood)

Cotton terrycloth towels

New pencils with unused erasers

Rubber cement

Plastic cups

Blue masking tape (easy release type)

Large diameter paper hole punch (hand type)

PREPARATION PROCESS
Before applying paint, you must prepare the chip to accept paint. Although paint may adhere for a while to a chip with rust, dirt or oil, eventually the repair will fail. The preparation process begins the day before you repair the paint chips and scratches.

The afternoon before starting your chip repairs, wash your car. After washing with your normal car wash, spray the areas you plan to repair with P21S Total Auto Wash, allow to sit for a minute, then scrub well with your sponge. P21S Total Auto Wash will remove all wax and oil from your paint. Dry your car thoroughly and put it away for the night.

After washing your car, make up several sanding pencils. Use a hole punch to punch out a few dots from the 1200 grit wet and dry paper. Apply the sandpaper dots to the end of your pencil eraser with rubber cement. Allow them to dry over night. You will use the sanding pencils to scuff-up and clean out nicks.

To make a chip ready for touch-up paint, you must make sure it does not have loose edges, clean it, and sand it. I use a toothpick to check the edges of a chip. If loose or lifted, I use the toothpick to knock off the loose paint. To clean, I like to use denatured alcohol or Prepsol and a foam swab. I pour a little bit into a plastic cup and use a foam swab to clean the chip and surrounding area.

Next, I use a sanding pencil to clean out the chip and rough-up the edges. Simply dip the sanding pencil into a cup of clean water, dab a few drops of water on the chip, and gently rotate the sanding pencil over the chip. Keep the area you sand as small as possible. Rotating the sanding pencil back and forth in your fingers 8-10 times should be enough to do the job. If the chip has exposed bare metal, or if you can see rust forming, use the edge of the pencil erasure to remove the rust. When you finish sanding the chip, dry it with a terrycloth towel and clean it again with Prepsol and a foam swab.

APPLYING TOUCH-UP PAINT
Once the damaged areas are cleaned and prepared, you can begin the touch-up itself. If a chip exposed bare metal, you must primer the chip before the color touch-up. After mixing thoroughly, pour or spray a small amount of your primer into a plastic cup. Next, use a clean toothpick to apply the primer. I do this by dipping just the tip (2-3 mm) of the toothpick into the primer. If I get a blob, I wipe it back.

Next, I touch the tip of the toothpick to the center of the chip and allow the paint to flow off of the toothpick into the chip. You will be amazed how well the capillary action works. If you prefer, you can use the #2 artistís brush. Do not allow the primer to overflow the sides of the chip. Allow the primer to dry for 2-3 hours. You can speed dry the primer with a hair dryer after allowing it to air dry for one hour. Simply wave the hair dryer 3-4 inches over the primered chip for 30-40 seconds. Do not touch the chips with your hands, as the oils from your skin will prevent the color coat from adhering.

Now, mix your color-matched paint thoroughly and pour a small amount into a clean plastic cup. As with the primer, use a clean toothpick or #2 artistís brush to apply the color coat. Touch the toothpick or brush to the center of the chip and allow capillary action to pull the paint into the chip. Apply a small dab at a time and allow it to dry for 2-3 hours. You must repeat this process several times, so donít try to fill the chip in one pass. Apply several thin layers, and you will get much better results.

The color touch-up process is complete when you have applied enough coats to slightly overfill the chip onto the roughed up area surrounding the chip. Once youíve filled the chip, allow it to dry for another 24 to 48 hours. The longer the better.

Iím often asked if itís necessary to apply a clear coat over chip repairs. I donít think itís necessary or adds any noticeable difference. If you get the proper touch-up paint from your dealer, it will match without using a clearcoat. However, if youíre a purist in pursuit of perfection, substitute a clearcoat for the last 2-3 coats.

LEVEL & BUFF
Until you level or mill the paint repair down to the same plane as the original paint, all youíll have is an ugly looking blob. This is easily done using the Meguiarís Unigrit Sanding Block, which helps remove sags, runs and other isolated defects with surgical precision. Donít forget to soak it overnight before use, as the directions indicate.

To level your paint chips, use your finger to put a small dab of car shampoo on the chip repair for lubrication. Next, use the Unigrit Sanding Block or 3M sanding paper to mill the high spot off of the chip repair. I always pull the sanding block towards me. Never rub it back and forth or in a circle. When the block dries out, dip it into your bucket of water again. Keep the area well lubricated with water and shampoo. The sanding block will dull the paint. Donít fear, as your polish will easily restore the luster. When the surface looks level, dry it with a clean towel and inspect with your fingertips. If you can feel a high spot, it needs more work.

The final step is to buff out the repair with a good hand polish. I like to use 3M Perfect-It Rubbing Compound or Eagle One Scratch Remover (fine or medium grit compounds) followed by Meguiarís Hand Polish or 3M Perfect-It Swirl Remover. Apply the compound and polish to a clean foam applicator pad, rub into the paint area using a short back and forth motion (not in circles), then buff out with a clean terrycloth towel. Tada! The blemish is gone.

SUMMARY
Learning to repair paint chips and scratches is not difficult. After buffing out a few scratches and filling a couple of chips, you will become comfortable with the process. The reward is a great looking car and a lot of money saved. Most paint shops won't bother with repairing chips because it's often faster for them to repaint an entire panel. If you keep up with repairing the chips and scratches, you can avoid repainting for a long time.
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