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Old 11-08-2004, 09:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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On my 97 540i, I've put quite a few swirl marks into its paint. ghead The paint being black doesnt help me. I can see every single one. I've tried a number of waxes...Is there another easy way?
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I have found that Miguiers first to steps.. then zymol work best for scraches... I've also heard a lot of people say the clay bar works wonders too... maybe you should look into either...

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Zaino clay is awesome! While it will not "remove" most swirl marks, there is no danger of destroying the paint like most swirl removers can do. You should use the "Z-5" treatment to hide the swirls. I had a black car before, it made those disappear - which is dang hard!

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Thanks a lot! I've already tried Zymol (which I like) Ill look at the "Z-5" treatment...
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Old 11-09-2004, 10:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't have any first hand experience with this, but I know someone who claims Orbital Waxing will get out most small scratches/swirls.
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only true way to remove swirl marks is with a PC, however, as mentioned in previous posts, you can temporarily hide swirl marks with "specialize waxes/sealants". I personally use Zaino Z5 which does a damn good job as long as you don't mind re-applying it every 3-4 months depending on your local conditions.
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Yes clay is great but will not remove scratches or swirls. To properly remove your swirls you will need a PC or Porter Cable Random Orbital Polisher. You will need to use a polish or light compound to remove the swirls. Then you can put a wax or sealant on over that.
1Z paint Polish - Poorboys Super Swirl Remover 2.5 are both great 2.5 being more aggresive than the Paint Polish. Then you can use a glaze on top of that (Vanilla Moose) or go right to a sealant or wax. When using your PC you can get different pads. I think a Orange pad would be aggresive enough for you. Then you can use a white or black for finishing.
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Yes clay is great but will not remove scratches or swirls. To properly remove your swirls you will need a PC or Porter Cable Random Orbital Polisher. You will need to use a polish or light compound to remove the swirls. Then you can put a wax or sealant on over that.
1Z paint Polish - Poorboys Super Swirl Remover 2.5 are both great 2.5 being more aggresive than the Paint Polish. Then you can use a glaze on top of that (Vanilla Moose) or go right to a sealant or wax. When using your PC you can get different pads. I think a Orange pad would be aggresive enough for you. Then you can use a white or black for finishing.
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Do you know how to buff a car??? If you do, swirls are not that hard, go get a 3m product called finesse it II. After you go over the whole car, it will have swirl marks!!! Get a different buffing pad, and use a 3m swirl mark remover!!! It is about a 4 hour project, but I do this to mine every 6 months, and my paint looks like it is showroom fresh!!!! I also own a detail shop, so it helps to know what you are doing. If not, you should be able to get a professional buff from a detail shope for 100-125!!!!
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Originally posted by spfdfanatic+Nov 19 2004, 01:07 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(spfdfanatic @ Nov 19 2004, 01:07 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-dewey325@Nov 10 2004, 09:14 AM
Yes clay is great but will not remove scratches or swirls. To properly remove your swirls you will need a PC or Porter Cable Random Orbital Polisher. You will need to use a polish or light compound to remove the swirls. Then you can put a wax or sealant on over that.
1Z paint Polish - Poorboys Super Swirl Remover 2.5 are both great 2.5 being more aggresive than the Paint Polish. Then you can use a glaze on top of that (Vanilla Moose) or go right to a sealant or wax. When using your PC you can get different pads. I think a Orange pad would be aggresive enough for you. Then you can use a white or black for finishing.
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Or if this is not for you... bring it to a professional.
Good luck
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Do you know how to buff a car??? If you do, swirls are not that hard, go get a 3m product called finesse it II. After you go over the whole car, it will have swirl marks!!! Get a different buffing pad, and use a 3m swirl mark remover!!! It is about a 4 hour project, but I do this to mine every 6 months, and my paint looks like it is showroom fresh!!!! I also own a detail shop, so it helps to know what you are doing. If not, you should be able to get a professional buff from a detail shope for 100-125!!!!
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3m swirl mark remover has some fillers in it, so you are basically hiding the swirl marks. If it is your first time attacking the swirl marks, you need to go over the car with 3m fi2 polishing compound (what spfdfanatic suggested) a good 3-4 times with a pc ( i reccomend a porter cable random orbital). this will leave the car slightly hazy, which then, you would need to take care of using klasse AIO (klasse all in one). go over the car 1-2 times with AIO and it should be good as new. a whole detailing process (wash, clay,polish,wax) should be a 1 day project.
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they make stuff just for swirl marks that u can put on by hand... need to put a few coats on.. but works!!
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