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#1 (permalink) Old 03-22-2007, 11:40 AM
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hand or machine buff

when it comes down to the finish product, will buffing your car with a buffer do a better job then by hand regardless of time? and whats the best buffer you can get

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For a final wax, I always use a pc and soft foam pad. The machine has the ability to: a) put a uniform, thin coat of wax on the car and, b) some of the final waxes can fill very light swirls.

Using a pc will also reduce the amount of product you are using because of the spread and coating ability.

With some waxes like Meguiar's NXT or Wolfgang Sealant, you can apply the product to the entire car and by the time you are finished, it's ready for buffing with a microfiber towel.

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layering wax?

iv always just used one layer of carbuna wax while waxing, but iv been reading around the net and hearing that you get better results if you layer a synthetic wax on before hand and leave it for a day and then apply on you carbuna wax, anyway know anything bout this? and also how often do you need to apply hd cleanse?

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Well, there's tons of methods posted on the www for carnuba's versus sealants. Some folks have used that method you described and I personally don't see a big benefit. I see more benefit in keeping your car washed properly between waxing as the single most important process you can do.

One layer of carnuba shoud do just fine. But, you could experiment with a panel like a fender or door with sealant + carnuba.

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Going back to the original question, if your're going to polish by machine, make sure its an orbital polisher and not a rotary polisher. A rotary polisher will leave swirl marks all over your paintwork. You will not get this problem with an orbital polisher

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Not necessarily. It is just as easy to swirl paint with an orbital; it's all about preparation. Given a car that has been properly washed and prepped (usually clayed to remove fine contaminants in the paint) a rotary buffer, in experienced hands, has more polishing and correction potential.
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I prefer doing it by hand

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when it comes down to the finish product, will buffing your car with a buffer do a better job then by hand regardless of time? and whats the best buffer you can get

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I like to apply liquid waxes with the buffer, and paste waxes by hand. There isnt a difference that I know of. Now polishing is a different story. I highly recommend getting the PC 7424 or the new Ultimate Detailing Machine.

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iv always just used one layer of carbuna wax while waxing, but iv been reading around the net and hearing that you get better results if you layer a synthetic wax on before hand and leave it for a day and then apply on you carbuna wax, anyway know anything bout this? and also how often do you need to apply hd cleanse?

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The theory behind putting on two coats of a sealant (synthtic wax) is to insure complete coverage, and to get bit more durability out of it. Then you need to let the sealant cure for 12- 24 hours before topping it with your Carnauba. The cure time depends on what sealant you're using. So make sure you read the directions.

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Going back to the original question, if your're going to polish by machine, make sure its an orbital polisher and not a rotary polisher. A rotary polisher will leave swirl marks all over your paintwork. You will not get this problem with an orbital polisher
Like Boca said, not necessary. Sure the an orbital buffer is a lot more forgiving then a rotary. But putting the rotary in skilled hands yields faster results and more correcting ability.

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