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Old 06-11-2007, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I crushed my supra.

now I have a complete 2JZ, 272 cams, gt42 garrett. 4 inch mandrel turbo back and all related hardware and goodies.

all i gotta do is fit it in the 1995 318 is. i bought last month,

that should be a LITTLE faster than the automatic slowpoke it is now.
has anyone done this in the bimmerforum? i did see some on the www.

by the way what does a 318 is Physically weigh?, internet says 2750 LB.
i cant wait. coming this september i hope.
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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its gonna be sick!
but wat happen to the supra??
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Smile crushed

go to photobucket.com
type in search...romansura
and click on user,
then somewhere on one of the 3 pages you'll see a red supra and a big crane that tossed it over the heep of scrap. i got $110 in scrp metal from it.
and parted out the rest of the car.
I will post more pics of the bimmer project soon,
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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isnt a gt42 too big for the small 1.9l in the 318?
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He's plannign a 2JZ swap with the gt42r. Defitnely will be a beast. I'm nto sure this will fit as easy as you're hoping. I'll refer trggrhaapi to this topic as i'm sure he's considered it before.

The 2jz motor stands straight up whereas BMW 6 cylinders are angled to lwoer the center of gravity and fit it further back int he engine bay. I could see this as being a huge problem.
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Oh... killer 318 then...
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yes. the oem BMW engine placement is a better lower center of gravity design. I will mainly drag this 318, with a gt42 installed on a tubular stainless header on th 2Jz. the compressor cover may hit the right shock tower. not sure yet. trgghappi jump in and give any suggeetions..I may move back some of the firewall if needed, but from what i hear, when properly positioned straight up, it should be a snap. with a home mde/modified plenum intake, it should be putting out 750 or more at the rear wheels if the diff dosent explode on me. Im not suree what the ring gear diameter is. does anyone know? I usually run 114 unleaded and my friend in a 2l talon alredy laid down over 700 at the rear wheels on 36psi. so a 3 liter will have no problems doing it. When i was doing work on a 2004 M3, i noticed the concave ramps and (fast opening, slow closing) on the camshafts in the engine. I wish i had that c'c' machined head on the supra block hahahaha, it was like jewlery, all machined eaven in the combustion chambers, I was impressed. this low vacuun large cam profile requires the 6 throttle bodies to increase idle stability.(each cylinder tends to reverberte at idle some of the charge and pukes it into the other cyliner intake runners back and forth like an argument ), I was considering 6 small throttle bodies too on the 2j, but it may be too much work for a simple beast project like this just to make my idle better. it will be running a 3200lb clamp pressure plate on a kevlar sprung hub disk. 3 inch intercooler piping. So far i have a infinity Q45 throttle body, I think its a 80mm plate. 100mm stainless mandrel turbo back exhaust.
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2 walbro 255 in tank pumps. aeromotive regulator. huge intercooler.A 38mm turbosmart BOV. 272 degree cams from crower and titanium valverain. Internal work. factory oil squirters inside block that cool the pistons ike in a diesel. I feel there is no weak link or a restriction shall i say. It will boil down to how well tuned it will end up.
I was considering a smaller 67mm turbo for the street becuse it has such a nice powerband on this engine at 20 psi,
anyways, as far as the fitment is concerned, I compared a bare m3 block to the supra one and they are almost idedntical in passages and physical size, which was quite interesting.
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This is the BASE make up of the longblock.
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If you can fit that engine in you may want to look at getting a beefier driveline and rear end, cause I don't how much the 318 can take. One from a 325 or m3 could handle it.
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I know there are open and posi variants and Im not sure if there are ring gear diameter differences, I can install a custom ratacheting style locker spool for my purposes. if a larger diff pumpkin bolts in with a weird axle combination, that would be ideal lets say from a old 5 series or or something like that. if the m3 diff gearset is interchangable, I would say that will not help me because the tooth strength would still be same, unless an M3 diff asembly is alltogether bigger in size and ring gear size.
is there a race car builder that has experience in this? jump in and tell me what you recomend please.
oh sorry i didnt mention. I am using the supra 5 speed manual transmission and custom made driveshaft setup.
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You are correct, the diffs are interchangeable and virtually the same on strength.

Never been a fan of the Supra exhaust noise but who even cares with the ridiculous pssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss KSHH. Ahh, so nice.

We better be the first to get vids when this is all done. To each their own, I just get tired of going in a straight line.
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I crushed my supra.

now I have a complete 2JZ, 272 cams, gt42 garrett. 4 inch mandrel turbo back and all related hardware and goodies.

all i gotta do is fit it in the 1995 318 is. i bought last month,

that should be a LITTLE faster than the automatic slowpoke it is now.
has anyone done this in the bimmerforum? i did see some on the www.

by the way what does a 318 is Physically weigh?, internet says 2750 LB.
i cant wait. coming this september i hope.
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I can help you with that, measure the width of the block and figure out where the mounting locations are.

You may have to fab a new shifter link and install at an angle. You can also use the bellhousing from the Euro E36 M3 and I think the linkage as well ,since that uses the same getrag trans. Use E36 M3 driveshaft and diff.
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I can help you with that, measure the width of the block and figure out where the mounting locations are.

You may have to fab a new shifter link and install at an angle. You can also use the bellhousing from the Euro E36 M3 and I think the linkage as well ,since that uses the same getrag trans. Use E36 M3 driveshaft and diff.
exactly what i was going to suggest
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yes. I am not rich enough to acquire teh getrag 6 speed. I did notice only slight differences in the tail sections on the supra 6 speed. I am using a 2jz, and a 1jz(jap only)bellhousing and the R154 5 speed found from the 1987 to 1992 turbocharged supras. they are VERY strong , and 300 bucks if i ever granade one.
the driveshaft is no problem to adapt. I spoke with a guy about the 318 i and he says that ALL e36 318's that are automatic have a 4.44 to 1 gear set in the differential. is that what i have in my 1995 2 door? There is a tag on one bolt but its too rusted to tell the numbers that are stamped on it,well I am going to get it up in the air and spin and count it later on, since i drive it daily still, too lazy to jack it up, hmm 4.44's on tall 27"wrinklewalls slicks with my transmission ratios at 8000rpm will roughly top out a 135mph in 4th speed.
we will have to see. and yes I will post progres pics in photobucket.com later and vid on youtube after I fire it up. I can't wait. I am going on a holiday to Czech republic till late august so I really want to get her going just shortly after. Ahhh the women. I may grab some bimmer pictures for you guys of theitr local mods that they do in Prague etc..
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fantastic, cant wait to see progress
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Is this project going anywhere?
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