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i'm all for turbo'd cars, etc. but i just thought some of you long-time bmw enthusiasts would be sad to see the non-boosted power cars change. sure they are getting more power and more economical, but to me its the principle of it. but i'll be on the list of those to get one.....someday, haha. for now i'm happy with my non-boosted 325, haha.
Read the history of the 2002tii turbo. Then think again about saying turbos aren't part of bmws history.
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Read the history of the 2002tii turbo. Then think again about saying turbos aren't part of bmws history.
I think a better place to look is BMW turbo-diesels. The turbo on the 2k2 wasn't the most efficient thing in the world ... it hit boost at like 4500 rpm ...
I think I'd disagree with the idea that BMW's are not known to be especially fuel efficient. Given engine displacements and power outputs, most of them seem pretty reasonable. For God's sake, I get 32 mpg on the highway in an M3!!! Our V8's are more efficient than Ford etc. too, except perhaps the Corvette mpg which tends to be amazing for its displacement size.
32 MPG on the highway?!?! i only get 25 maybe 26?!?! how do you manage to do that?!?!
First off, I think both sides are right... BMW has an amazing history or building amazing engines/cars that are NA, but just think... we know what their engineers are capable of, so just imagine how crazy awesome their Turbo series cars are going to be!!! Right?!
Secondly, Any body interested in a turbo kit that I had on my E36 M3. It is near complete and would only need a header and some simple exhaust mods to suit the system (the same as an turbo system needs). The turbo needs to be rebuilt, which in the mainland is incredibly cheap and worth it if the turbo is high quality, which this one is. Here is what it includes:
- Turbonetics T3/T4 Turbo (capable of 20+lbs if you can fireproof your engine that much
- HKS Intercooler (top of line and quite large)
- Greddy Type S Blowoff Valve
- Turbosmart Ultra Gate (35mm)
- All Piping
- *If you want, I can also include a window/door driver side runner mount with a boost gauge and air/fuel ratio gauge.
I am open to taking offers on this... the guys who I bought the car from spent $9K to purchase this and have it installed. This kit is all top of the line parts and serves as a great basis for adding some serious hp to your E36. This system would also likely work on some other models, but no guarentees.
sorry, but next thing you know they'll be making hybrid airplanes...
...jk, but is there any mention about Hydrogen fuel? i know the new 7 series can use both gasoline or hydrogen right?
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... i know the new 7 series can use both gasoline or hydrogen right?
Not accurate. BMW designed and tested hydrogen-powered 7 Series vehicles, but they have a completely different engine, etc. As far as I know, they are not available to the public.
Audi have been hotting up their smaller cars with turbos of late like the 225bhp twin-turbo TT (a friend of mine has one); but they managed to cram a 3.2L into an A3... I'm not a Mini fan but wouldn't mind a ride in a turbo
I have to say that the recent BMW diesel engines are a cut above the rest of the class, but how will the new turbo engines handle - what about the dreaded turbo lag? When did BMW last make a stock turbo motor? Has anyone driven one?
Not accurate. BMW designed and tested hydrogen-powered 7 Series vehicles, but they have a completely different engine, etc. As far as I know, they are not available to the public.
wasnt a different engine ASAIK.. it burned both gasoline and liquid hydrogen that was broken down from water using solar power.
went like 100 something miles on water and 300 something miles on gasoline.
__________________ When you fight, you don't fight for abstract values like the flag, or the nation, or democracy. You fight for your buddy. You fight to keep him alive, and he fights to keep you alive, and you go on that way, day after day, battle after battle. And when one of your buddies dies, something inside you dies as well. But you go on. You fight, so that his death isn't meaningless, his sacrifice isn't for nothing.
-Dick Marcinko
The original model-T ford Henry Ford designed was built to run on alcohol because he believed it was the fuel of the future and today I couldn't agree more. Brazil is nearly 100% independent of foreign fuel due to ethanol and the USA needs to get on the band wagon! Hydrogen isn't going to make it as far as most are led to believe. The #1 way of producing hydrogen is to wrestle it from water, this method uses electricity, and the most popular way to produce electricity is by use of fossil fuel or nuclear power. Also hydrogen must be stored at high pressures making transportation expensive. The complexity in safety and use in cars goes through the roof. Think about having a 2000 psi tank of compressed fuel rupture in a car wreck. That would be equal to that of a small bomb! Alcohol, on the other hand, needs no major changes in storage or delivery, plus every car on the road today can be modified to use ethanol with current technology. Ethanol production effecientcy is going up and can now be bought for about $2.00 a gallon. Keep in mind that the octaine rating is 101, you'll spend 4-6 dollars a gallon in gasoline to match that rating in race fuel! Keep in mind that they still use tetraethyllead (lead) in race fuel and other "non-public" use fuels to control detonation. Gasoline still includes a tiny amount of lead because of
the natural processes under which oil formed in the ground. Ethanol is biodegradable, meaning it won’t harm groundwater in the event of a spill. Gasoline will be replaced in the fututre, and I personaly belive that Henery Ford was right.
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