well the pcv went ............i looked like i burning wood going down the road...two girls pulled up along side me to tell me the bad news......my 1998 740il is a nice car, but parts are made of gold...........i think they are....well 4 hours later the job was done....never had i used words of wisdom to get the bolts out of the intake... thank you for your help ... and for all your other readers... if i can do it, you can do it!