M3 Vs Cobra

[chef]

Originally posted by BMWLotAttendant+Oct 6 2004, 11:44 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BMWLotAttendant @ Oct 6 2004, 11:44 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-RedlinedRU@Oct 6 2004, 11:41 AM
yeah but in all fairness you have to give the bimmer wayyyyy more credit. it has way more comfort, safety, options, and engineering. the cobra engine is a supercharged v8, the m3 is a inline 6, just the fact that they re comparable is amazing. Just imaging how bad the mustang would get spanked if bmw put a supercharged v8 in the m3.....mustang wouldn't have SHIT on that and thats the truth. they are not in the same class. You would have to compare a 6cyl mustang to an m3 if you compared 6cy for 6cy and that would be a total laugh. I would imaging a v8 supercharged m3 would produce around 600-700 hp if they made one with the displacement amount of the mustang cobra. bimmer is better

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I've owned a few mustangs and just bought my first m3. Here's my take:

BMW - much nicer ride all around and fast too
Mustang - all brawn, no frills
M3 vs. Mustang Cobra - dont even try it, Stang will smoke you in a quarter mile race. But you'll get there with more style.

[ganjacyde]

add some curves in the road and im sure we all know who the winner will be...

[M5IAN]

Originally posted by BMW!!!+Oct 2 2004, 09:00 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BMW!!! @ Oct 2 2004, 09:00 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-gpoints@Sep 27 2004, 05:41 PM
Please note that these #'s show stock vs stock. The mustang is VERY easy to hop-up because of the s/c. The 1/4 mile time really shows how much faster the cobra is. Having said that, I hate the cobra and wouldn't trade my E46 M for it.

2004 Cobra
0-60 mph:* 4.5 sec
Quarter Mile:* 12.6 sec @ 112 mph

2001 M3:
0-60 = 4.5
1/4 = 13.1/13.4

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Hey, the stock M3 0-60 =4.8sec fastest, not 4.5 man, unless its tuned

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Sorry its called good driving. It is extremely possible for an E46 M3 can run 60 in 4.5 seconds. Even car and driver did it in 4.56 once,and they arnt even that good.

[2004 BMW M3]

Well i think I have all the answers to this one. My 2 best friends have 98 and 2000 cobras with cold air intake, full exhaust, and throttle body. I have a 2004 E46 M3 with a Borla Exhaust, Afe cold air intake and a superchip and I own them each and every time. Though i do know that 2003 cobra is ridiculous but i have yet to pull up on the line with one so i could'dt give you any info on that one. I do know it would be a close race though. I run the quarter mile in about 11.47

[S54-MRoadster]

Originally posted by 2004 BMW M3@Jan 25 2005, 09:08 PM
Well i think I have all the answers to this one. My 2 best friends have 98 and 2000 cobras with cold air intake, full exhaust, and throttle body. I have a 2004 E46 M3 with a Borla Exhaust, Afe cold air intake and a superchip and I own them each and every time. Though i do know that 2003 cobra is ridiculous but i have yet to pull up on the line with one so i could'dt give you any info on that one. I do know it would be a close race though. I run the quarter mile in about 11.47

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You run the 1/4mi. In 11.47? With just a exhaust, intanke and a chip. I call Bullshit on that. Theres no way you run 11.47 in the 1/4. Even with a charger and a 150shot you wont run that.

[bmwforumerm3]

11.5??? are you kidding me...e46's dont run it in 11's....no way...no how... the supercharged e36 with all your bolt ons getting about 340hp to the crank gets a high 12 i believe...thats SUPERCHARGED....your 1/4 mile times are wack. it might be 13.3's at best...but i still doubt that.

[M BMW]

Hi. Guys, doesn't the Cobra have 300hp? The E46 M3 has 333hp. I think we know who the winner is.

But as someone said, the SVT Cobra has 390hp (never heard of SVT Cobra). Then I think the M3 would get beaten. But remember, this is an older M3 and the Cobra we're talking about is a new one. Just wait for the E90 M3 to come out (V8 with 400hp).

That'll be the real race.

Thanks.
Bye.

[Thatboky]

03 cobras with the s/c doesnt run 12.8 cus in the road and track they compares it to an sti and the sti beat it by .1 in the quarter mile so the 03 cobra running 13.2 not 12.8.the bmw3 should keep up wit it with no problems and should take it out in highspeeds.

[GT Mech Eng]

Originally posted by S54-MRoadster@Jan 25 2005, 10:51 PM
You run the 1/4mi. In 11.47?* With just a exhaust, intanke and a chip.* I call Bullshit on that.* Theres no way you run 11.47 in the 1/4.* Even with a charger and a 150shot you wont run that.

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I would agree with this. With those light mods, maybe high 12's, on a good day with a good driver. The numbers you read in magazines are done with perfect conditions with a professional driver, after many runs.

In order to get into the 11's on a RWD, you would most likely need slicks. I've seen AWD's get into the 11's on street tires, but not many RWD; no matter how much power you have, you still need to grip up with the road.

Blessings,

-Davide

P.S. The newer Cobra would definately kill the M3 in the 1/4 mile. I raced a stock Cobra at the track a few times and he ran mid 12's consistently, which is better than stock M3, stock STi, and stock EVO. Most STi's and EVO's I've seen run low 13's on a good run, and they only trap about 98mph, where the Cobra's trap 105+mph.

But of course, true racing requires more than just driving in a straight line, if you know what I mean.

[Johnathan_Hess]

An 03/04 Mustang Cobra will absolutely demolish an M3.

They run 12s stock, and with just a pulley and an exhaust, they break into the 11s.

There's no way an M3 would ever be able to compete with a Cobra in a straight line.

[chowder]

i've taken a cobra (dunno what year) maybe 2000?) not from a complete stop, on the freeway, and we started from about 75mph...

and i have a e36 325i, bone stock except for a chip. it was pretty even until the curves, then i pulled ahead...good race, but i still won.

maybe the driver sucked, but still i got him!!!!!

btw, if you want to do v8's vs. v8's...how about (until the v8 m3 comes out) we talk about m5's vs the cobra?

[Johnathan_Hess]

Originally posted by chowder@Mar 24 2005, 08:38 PM
i've taken a cobra (dunno what year) maybe 2000?) not from a complete stop, on the freeway, and we started from about 75mph...

and i have a e36 325i, bone stock except for a chip. it was pretty even until the curves, then i pulled ahead...good race, but i still won.

maybe the driver sucked, but still i got him!!!!!

btw, if you want to do v8's vs. v8's...how about (until the v8 m3 comes out) we talk about m5's vs the cobra?

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The 2000 didn't have the blower.

And a Cobra will walk an M5 in a straight line, as well. M3s and M5s are pretty similar in most aspects of performance.

[capslinky]

damnit... you people... why must we compare apples to oranges? 03'+ Cobras are blown, they will eat an M3 in every gear. The newer cobras have 390 hp, but did you forget about an intrical part of any race.. i believe they refer to it as TORQUE, the cobra makes 390 Ft/Lbs. of TORQUE. Lets see how these numbers stack up to each other:

M3: 333 Hp 262 Ft/Lb 3415 lbs.
Cobra: 390 Hp 390 Ft/Lb 3665 lbs.

Explain to me how the cobra doesn't own the M3 in the quarter, in the half, top speed? The cobra is a piece of american muscle, this doesn't mean it can't corner! You people immediately take offense when someone compares a muscle car to your BMW:

"still tho M3 has way better handling so the M3 kick ass" - note spelling
(in response)-"tru dat read my sig quote"
"yeah but in all fairness you have to give the bimmer wayyyyy more credit. it has way more comfort, safety, options, and engineering. the cobra engine is a supercharged v8, the m3 is a inline 6, just the fact that they re comparable is amazing. Just imaging how bad the mustang would get spanked if bmw put a supercharged v8 in the m3.....mustang wouldn't have SHIT on that and thats the truth. they are not in the same class. You would have to compare a 6cyl mustang to an m3 if you compared 6cy for 6cy and that would be a total laugh. I would imaging a v8 supercharged m3 would produce around 600-700 hp if they made one with the displacement amount of the mustang cobra. bimmer is better"

Well what if Ford put in a V-24 and Bmw only had an Inline-12... Come on quit whining.. I own a 325i and a Mustang GT... Which one wins? You take a guess. You all bought BMW's for the same reason i did, because they look good, they're fun to drive, and most importantly get you pussy. Peace.

[GT Mech Eng]

Yes, it is apples to oranges; two very different animals.

A closer race would probably be an STi or EVO vs. an M3. For the price, the newer SVT Cobra is definately one of the fastest cars on the road in its stock form; it is built to go fast in a straight line. When I raced it at the track with my Eclipse, he always got the jump on me from the pit (RWD vs. FWD, go figure), but even after I began to grip up he was too far out in front of me to catch up to.

We usually trapped near the same times (we probably have comparable power-weight ratio's), but he would always get consistent mid 12's where I struggled with my 320 horse FWD just to get into the 13's.

Blessings,

-Davide

[MastaFred]

Yes the FORD might be faster 1/4 mile but then you have to remember american cars are made for drag as much as i love Bmws i have to say americans have it under control when it comes to drag. tech wise american cars are bs handling they suck luxury they suck but no matter what any one says they have it locked when it comes to drag so lets give them that one thing i would love to see ford make a 3.2 liter engine that can push 333 hp