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#1 (permalink) Old 08-23-2004, 06:59 AM
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How can i find out if an engine in an Italian e30 M3 is a 2.0 litre or a 2.3 litre engine?
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the s14b23 is a 2.3l engine no 2.0l were made

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the 2.0L S14 was found in the Italian 320is. if it is a M3 i would think it wouldve evolved with the other european m3's (ie: evoI & evoII= 2.3L, evoIII = 2.5L). the S14 320is was created for tax reasons, but i dont think that would stop bmw from selling the M3 in italy despite the tax premium. i could be wrong though.
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yeah i don't know about italian cars, the us spec e30 m3 only came in a 2.3l

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M3Dude... pretty sure he was asking about an Italian engine.. so if you didnt have any info for an italian engines.. ok nevermind.. I'm not going down that road....

I've called a few BMW dealerships before to get specifications on valve clearances... and stuff like that.. I'm pretty sure you could do that same.. they have a pretty good data base for info.

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M3Dude... pretty sure he was asking about an Italian engine.. so if you didnt have any info for an italian engines.. ok nevermind.. I'm not going down that road....

I've called a few BMW dealerships before to get specifications on valve clearances... and stuff like that.. I'm pretty sure you could do that same.. they have a pretty good data base for info.

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you can go down that road i shouldn't of said anything if it wasn't going to help, but i wasn't paying attention to the fact that he wanted to know about an italian car when i replied the first time

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i did read it dammit i guess i just missed the word italian, what is your problem man

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Now, now... don't start a war guys.

Sinds there was a high tax fee in itali during the late 80's on 2.0l+ engines, BMW produced the m3 with 2.3l and 2.0l engines. The last is called 320IS M3 and is (as far as i know) identical to the 2.3l M3 (including M-power logo's on the engine). Both are s14 engines, but the 2.0l has a shorter strole. I can buy a 89'er M3 from italie, I want to make sure I'm not buying a 2.0l for a 2.3 price (though the 2.0l is still doing 7.3 sec to 100 km/h).
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Now, now... don't start a war guys.

Sinds there was a high tax fee in itali during the late 80's on 2.0l+ engines, BMW produced the m3 with 2.3l and 2.0l engines. The last is called 320IS M3 and is (as far as i know) identical to the 2.3l M3 (including M-power logo's on the engine). Both are s14 engines, but the 2.0l has a shorter strole. I can buy a 89'er M3 from italie, I want to make sure I'm not buying a 2.0l for a 2.3 price (though the 2.0l is still doing 7.3 sec to 100 km/h).
you are correct that S14 had to be destroked to not exceed the 2.0L+ bracket, but the S14 320is did not use the M3 body. all 320is' ive seen, came with factory Mtech2 body kits and would most likely have M or M-technik logos in various places, but no M3 badging. so it will be very easy to tell which car is the 2L and which is the 2.3; when i first read your post i thought you were asking how to tell the two engines apart and that i dont know :P

here's a picture of a 320is that clearly shows the standard body style plus the S14, and you could always try to search through www.e30.de to find a handful of more 320is'
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