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#1 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 02:36 AM
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hi folks i own a 98 M3 and decided to take it down to the track. The first time i went i wasnt dissapoint ran mid 15's all stock.. the second time around didnt go so well..i notice the lag everytime i launch around 3000 rpms so i try to launch around 2...then i lag again shifting from 1st to 2nd just before the redline...the "ASC" light always pops up and theres a bit of lag before i pick up speed again..then my times drop...can you guys help with this situation? THANKS

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IT seems the ASC, even when you PURPOSELY turn it off (meaning the orange ASC light is not there below the ///M sign in the middle of your dials), will turn on anytime it thinks you're slipping.

I guess you would have to COMPLETELY disable it for it not to take "initiatives" on you.
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Press the ASC button on the console in front of your shifter. When the ASC icon in the lower guage cluster is illuminated, you are free to roast the tires with abandon.

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So...when the ASC LIGHT!!!! is turned ON in the center of the console that means the system that automatically regulates the tires for me and breaks when shit is slipping if OFF!!??!?!?!1


Ok...does anyone else think thats RETARDED!!?!?!?!
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So...when the ASC LIGHT!!!! is turned ON in the center of the console that means the system that automatically regulates the tires for me and breaks when shit is slipping if OFF!!??!?!?!1


Ok...does anyone else think thats RETARDED!!?!?!?!
Yup. It seems counter-intuitive, I know, but it is the same on our 330i as well.

I think the reasoning would be that it is more important (read: more safe) to alert the driver that the system is deactivated than the other way around.

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OMG...thats horrible.

So all this time i'm driving around with that stupid ASC light turned off thinking..."yeah i'm driving without traction control"...

And then when there's mad snow or rain and i feel as though adding some technology to help me avoid an accident is smart ...I'M REALLY NOT !!!

omg...horrible.

good thing i dont burn my tires.

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OMG...thats horrible.

So all this time i'm driving around with that stupid ASC light turned off thinking..."yeah i'm driving without traction control"...

And then when there's mad snow or rain and i feel as though adding some technology to help me avoid an accident is smart ...I'M REALLY NOT !!!

omg...horrible.

good thing i dont burn my tires.

GOD!
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This isn't the first beamer i've driven.

My dad's 2001 328 has that ASC junk. when the light displays in his dash does that also mean the function is turned off???

It really makes no sense.
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This isn't the first beamer i've driven.

My dad's 2001 328 has that ASC junk. when the light displays in his dash does that also mean the function is turned off???

It really makes no sense.
I would assume the 328 is no different.

I amended my post above to include what I think is the rationale behind it.

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interesting... i guess yeah the thing comes on by default...

But its when you're being a jerk that the light comes on.

I guess its like the other warning lights...they come on when the thing isnt working.

ok ok ok

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interesting... i guess yeah the thing comes on by default...

But its when you're being a jerk that the light comes on.

I guess its like the other warning lights...they come on when the thing isnt working.

ok ok ok

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Right.

When you start the car, the ASC system always defaults to "on." Push the button once - the light comes on and stays on. ASC is now disabled and you are free to ignite the tires.

The procedure to deactivate the system on the E46 is different than on the E36, so I assume your dad's 2000 328 would be as well. On our 2001, the system deactivates in stages. To fully disable all traction control you have to press the DSC button and hold it for a full three seconds. When the DSC light in the guage cluster comes on and stays on, the system is completely disabled. If you don't hold the button until the light comes on, ADB (Automatic Differential Braking) remains active and can still interfere with "fun" time.

Have him verify this with his manual, but I'll bet it is the same procedure as on our 330.

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Ah ok cool...thanks alot.

i bet my dad didnt know that. LOL...so i guess i'm a not bad driver!!! lol

One more tidbit of information...

did you know BMW DOES NOT recommend operating their CD player below the freezing point... bastards...
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Ah ok cool...thanks alot.

i bet my dad didnt know that. LOL...so i guess i'm a not bad driver!!! lol

One more tidbit of information...

did you know BMW DOES NOT recommend operating their CD player below the freezing point... bastards...
I do remember reading that now that you mention it - strange.

A tidbit of my own...

Cat's urine glows under a black light.

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oh so you mean when the light is on its actually turning it off??? ghead next time i go ill see if my times would be different...thanks guys

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