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Old 12-29-2004, 08:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am a bmw lover from the start of time and own a 328is 1996. Although im selling in about the next week or so. Im purchasing my dream car. The e36 1995 m3 cosmos black m3. Now i believe im ordering the HID HL from umnitza.com and getting the x from bavarian autosport. But now i need some effective mods to put this baby ahead of all the rest. Now im not an idiot by any means. But im open for suggestions. Any type's of Coldair intake,chips,undercarrige pulleys,rear/front strut bar,exhuast, short shift / short throw. Basikly anything you can think of thats quality. NO K n N bull shit.

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Does any1 really believe that the throttle body from oh...i dont know dinan does any good.Or is it just some bull shit for an inline 6 m3? thats for all u bmw lovers.
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Just enjoy the car as is, I don't think you will even come close to exceed performance limits the car has to offer.
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all those things you listed would be good and yes the big bore throttle body would be good, if you got money to spend get a cam kit from turner motorsport, +57hp, enjoy

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Forced induction will put you a Whole football field ahead of the rest.

A good way to start is that cam Kit and Some bolt ons. Then if you wanted to crank it up more get the 6 individual throttle body setup from bimmerworld.
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Without spending a rediculous amount of money, you won't make any major gains. That being said, there is always room for improvement.

Dinan throtle body by itself, won't do much, but you could certainly make an M3 breath better. Dinan CAI, e39 540 MAF, Dinan Throttle body, and a free flow exhaust will certainly help this out. Adding software to take advantage of these mods will improve the grin factor even more.

Other boltons or boltoffs (as you mentioned above) will help decrease power loss, but probably won't make a huge difference.

Beyond that you would have to get into the internals (cams, headwork, etc.) which rapidly falls out of the realm of cost effective. This include FI.
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where can I get one of those damn e39 540 maf? I've been looking for a week now!
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where can I get one of those damn e39 540 maf? I've been looking for a week now!
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goto a shopping mall, your bound to find a 540
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Which way would you like to go first... suspension?.. or performance?...

Suspension.. I'd say the best way to advance the M3s performance.. is a good set of shocks and springs all around. Bilstein and H&R are a great set up..

As for Performance... the best gain I've seen so far.. is by far with intake and exhaust... Jim C. makes a great intake.. and Borla is my fav. exhaust...

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Which way would you like to go first... suspension?.. or performance?...

Suspension.. I'd say the best way to advance the M3s performance.. is a good set of shocks and springs all around. Bilstein and H&R are a great set up..

As for Performance... the best gain I've seen so far.. is by far with intake and exhaust... Jim C. makes a great intake.. and Borla is my fav. exhaust...

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Ya suspension i hear bilstein is good...but im looking for price around that area.

now another thing...u here all this bull shit about 12hp for intake...and exhuast being 15-18. rah rah ...u know

what would any of you guess would be your avg horsepower for lets say....dinan exhuast....dinan cold air....alpina chip...a bounce for 240hp too what you think? anyone have proven results? dyno any1?

anyways ya only mods ive purchased so far...is xbrace and umnitza's angel eyes.
O ya and my little v1 i picked up for my self for xmas... (testing that in the 3) its fun.

So ya down to best short shifts to short throws...to that little clutch stop

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Aight.. I'll give you my own opinion.. and you can look them up as you see fit.

Intake... Jim Conforti CAI 5-10 maybe HP
Exhaust... Borla Cat Back 5-10 HP
Chip... Jim Conforti Shark Injector 5-10 HP
SSK.. Rogue Engineering SSK

With the mods you've listed..I'd say a jump of maybe 20-25HP...

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where can I get one of those damn e39 540 maf? I've been looking for a week now!
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wow you're kidding right, :P

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detai..._ID=13621403123

that took all of two seconds, then again, i'm the guru of bmw stuff on the interweb, you can ask les, he knows
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Thats pretty much true... I use him as a search tool... haha

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now another thing...u here all this bull shit about 12hp for intake...and exhuast being 15-18. rah rah ...u know

what would any of you guess would be your avg horsepower for lets say....dinan exhuast....dinan cold air....alpina chip...a bounce for 240hp too what you think? anyone have proven results? dyno any1?
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Well, believe it or not, those little graphy thingies in Dinan's catalog or website are lamda graphs from a dyno. That's where they get the claims of +9hp or +11hp.

As for personal experience, I've been on and off they dyno for the past few weeks, and bolt ons definitely make a difference. I should have more RWHP than a stock M3 of the same year as soon as I get my software dilema out of the way.

Just keep in mind it's not cheap. After all is said and done, I will have well over $1K invested in dyno time over the past month. Most people save for mods, and not for tuning, and that doesn't make sense.
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Aight.. I'll give you my own opinion.. and you can look them up as you see fit.

Intake... Jim Conforti CAI 5-10 maybe HP
Exhaust... Borla Cat Back 5-10 HP
Chip... Jim Conforti Shark Injector 5-10 HP
SSK.. Rogue Engineering SSK

With the mods you've listed..I'd say a jump of maybe 20-25HP...

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I hope your talking about to the Crank.
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Adding HP isnt easy

SS euro full exhaust
intake full 3.5 w/ hfm
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m50 manifold
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custom tuning

^ that could do some damage though. Should put you around 295 to the crank. Then again that costs you aroung $5,000
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