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gas mileage - 1997 m3 automatic

hey guyz... i m considering buying this m3 and so far everything seems to look ok... except one thing... i was checking the consumption reading from the onboard computer and it said 15.1 mpg... this got me a little worried that maybe there is something wrong with motor/fuel system or something that is causing it give such low mileage... the tested ratings are according to websites : 20/28 city/highway...

can you please give me some insight on this and help me make the decision on whether or not to buy this car? how kind of average do you get on your cars? is this something i need to be worried about?

oh yeah, it's an automatic (i know, i know)...

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If you drive like your grandma chances are you will get the 20/28...or if the car was driven primarily in city it may need a good run out on the freeway. Sure it could need a new fuel filter and plugs (would be good to change ithem out concidering the age of the vehicle). There are many factors, driving style and maintenance are a couple of the more common ones...but really a M3 automatic?

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I own an M3 auto, 1997. In fact, it's for sale :-)

On the highway I regularly get 34+ mpg. Once I managed to get 37 mpg on a 400 mile trip. I do have a Dinan CAI and software, which is supposed to improve your gas mileage as well as performance. In the city (Washington DC) with really bad traffic I tend to get 16. In more normal city traffic, I get 20-22.



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M3UOND - what are you looking to get for it? how many miles, condition etc of your car?

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M3UOND - what are you looking to get for it? how many miles, condition etc of your car?
1997 E36 M3 four door, 5-speed auto. Cosmos black metallic. Luxury package. Power seats.

Quick list of modifications on the car: Dinan Cold Air Intake w/ Stage II software-metal impeller water pump-aluminum thermostat housing-uprated electrical fan-17" ASA JH8 ultra light wheels in black with General UHP rubber-Eibach ProKit Springs, Koni Yellow fully adjustable Sport Shocks and Struts-front camber plates-CFWerks carbon fiber strut tower brace-6000K Xenon HID projector headlights w/ Angel Eyes-Euro clear corners and sidemarkers, E46 style M grille, front M badge, window tint-Eclipse CD 8443 head unit, with 500W amplifier and 2 JL Audio woofers in the trunk. I did everything except the CAI/software and the stereo. The suspension mods introduce a go-cart feel to steering; it really runs on rails! The Konis can be made very stiff or to feel like stock stiffness very easily; right now I have it just a little stiffer than stock on the front and just about stock on the rear. In addition to these parts, I have replaced the coolant expansion tank, the heater core, the power steering hoses, the camshaft position sensor, the passenger seat SRS airbag sensor, all spark plugs, all renewable fluids, taillight bulbs, gasoline cap (x4), and I'm sure various other bits that I can't remember at the moment. The gas cap is peculiar. It always, always, always throws a code to the check engine light
saying that the gas cap is open. I've bought innumerable new ones and taken it to three mechanics, including one dealer. They've inspected the entire fuel system for leaks several times and can't find any, nor can they find the specific sensor that's causing the error code.

The service history before me is largely unknown,
although I know for a fact that the first owner took
good care of it. I have had the car since about 107K. He sold it after several years
having put hardly any miles on it--obviously a sunday
driver or something. He has all of the stamps for
service in the book. The second owner was obviously a
high mileage commuter, and put quite a few miles on it
in not many years--almost certainly highway miles.
Since I bought the car, I have been meticulously
changing the oil myself with fully synthetic oil every
5,000 miles, and also take it to an experienced
mechanic for all inspection services. I also use Auto-RX.

When I bought the car I ran a carfax and nothing
strange popped up. My hard drive has crashed since
then, so I doubt I still have the carfax report
hanging around, but I will look. I did have one
covered accident while I owned the car, but it wasn't
much of one: I hit a curb, so some suspension
components had to be replaced, and the shop replaced a
quarter panel for me; it had been dinged slightly in
the accident, and they were quite happy to do a full
replacement and paint given that insurance was paying
for it. The front bumper cover was also scratched, and so
they replaced it and painted it, as well as the
connecting brake cooling ducts. I'll happily send you
the VIN if you would like to run a new carfax.

The things that are wrong with the car right now are
all small. 1. The airbag light comes on because I
have not had it reset since I replaced the busted
sensor under the passenger's seat. 2. The check
engine lamp comes on shortly after I have it reset
because of the gas cap issue. 3. the light bulb that
illuminates the odometer burned out (common E36
failure) and I haven't taken apart the instrument
cluster to replace it yet. It's an easy fix. 4. There are some light
scratches on the front of the car here and there from
gravel. Probably about four or five in total. Not
visible unless you get quite close. I'm going to have
the car detailed, and I would imagine that would take care of the scratches. 5. There are minor indentations on the part of the
headliner that covers the A pillars, and one very
small hole in the headliner near the sunroof over the
driver's head. You have to look for these. 6. The
driver and passenger seats are slightly worn where
your thighs drag over the side of the seat on entry.
Not bad, but slight white spots on the dark beige
leather. 7. the shifter knob has two cracks in the
enamel from the sun. 8. the stereo head unit cannot
decide whether it is daytime or night time, so it
changes between two illumination settings at random. Always
visible at all hours, though. 9. the bmw glovebox
flashlight holds a very weak charge. 10. the
passenger side rear door cargo pocket is 1/3 loose
from the door. 11. there are a couple of small scratches
on the leather in the rear seat, but you really have
to look hard. 12. The slipring in the steering wheel squeaks sometimes (fairly common on these cars). Please feel free to ask any questions. I'm thinking about $12,000. Mileage is 140,996.



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1997 E36 M3 four door, 5-speed auto. Cosmos black metallic. Luxury package. Power seats.

Quick list of modifications on the car:
Wow, a quick list? The detailed version must be somethin' else!:lol:
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