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Old 01-04-2005, 11:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hey im totaly new to m3's whats the diffrence between a 98 328i and a 98 m3?? and whats the m3 packages that some 328i have? can they be added afterwords? any explaination would help

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Old 01-04-2005, 12:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hey im totaly new to m3's whats the diffrence between a 98 328i and a 98 m3?? and whats the m3 packages that some 328i have? can they be added afterwords? any explaination would help

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You can pretty much make a 328 into an M3 or better all depends on how much you want to spend that being said..... the differences are that the 328i comes with 2.8L I6 at 190hp and the M3 comes with 3.2L 240hp they are also tuned accordingly. M3 has a body kit and is lowered, also comes with sportier suspension and the interior is also sportier. The 328i is minus all those things but they all can be added, the engine is interchangeable as well.. hope that helps

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Old 01-04-2005, 12:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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M3's are M3's, there are lots of differences, hence the difference in price. If you want the ultimate in performance, buy an M3.

More power, more ammenities, and more prestige all come with the ///M cars. I'm sure you can perform a search in this forum and find a comprehensive list. If not PM me, I'd be glad to help. Just keep in mind your innitial investment, as well as all the maintenance and insurance thereafter will be considerably more costly.

That being said, the standard 3series can be upgraded to perform like their ///M bretheren. My insurance company wouldn't insure me on an ///M car, so went with a regular 3er and began to piddle.


Thousands of dollars later, I have more hp than a stock M3 of the same year, and similar handling. I also enjoy the same exterior styling, as many aftermarket tuners offer ///M body kits.
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M3's are M3's, there are lots of differences, hence the difference in price. If you want the ultimate in performance, buy an M3.

More power, more ammenities, and more prestige all come with the ///M cars. I'm sure you can perform a search in this forum and find a comprehensive list. If not PM me, I'd be glad to help. Just keep in mind your innitial investment, as well as all the maintenance and insurance thereafter will be considerably more costly.

That being said, the standard 3series can be upgraded to perform like their ///M bretheren. My insurance company wouldn't insure me on an ///M car, so went with a regular 3er and began to piddle.


Thousands of dollars later, I have more hp than a stock M3 of the same year, and similar handling. I also enjoy the same exterior styling, as many aftermarket tuners offer ///M body kits.
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Greetings, slightly off topic..apologies. Not in response to above reply.
Am I alone in thinking that forums are designed for people to ask questions and receive answers. I spend a lot of time reading forums, yet despite this I still have need to ask questions occasionally. There is also the point that whilst there are, as a prior poster stated, numerous things in which you could search for, maybe someone has something to say or a point that was not previously made. Or indeed it could start a bigger conversation of use to others. The chap asking the questions is being polite and making a simple request, should you not wish to answer...then simply don't. I see little to be gained by simply saying "search" This comes across as being less than helpful which in my mind is what these forums are all about. In general I find that most BMW drivers are more than helpful and when someone takes the time to help me it instill's a sense of camaraderie amongst people whom share a common interest in cars. Please don't take this as bagging those who say search or similar, its intention is to make those that don't have enough knowledge or experience comfortable posting, with the resulting increase in posters. I would think if I was a first time user and I got such a curt reply I would possible not return to forums.

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hey im totaly new to m3's whats the diffrence between a 98 328i and a 98 m3?? and whats the m3 packages that some 328i have? can they be added afterwords? any explaination would help

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Big difference. You get an M3, and you have an M3, not just any Bimmer. Go out and look at the two, you will see.
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Old 01-09-2005, 07:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Greetings, slightly off topic..apologies. Not in response to above reply.
Am I alone in thinking that forums are designed for people to ask questions and receive answers. I spend a lot of time reading forums, yet despite this I still have need to ask questions occasionally. There is also the point that whilst there are, as a prior poster stated, numerous things in which you could search for, maybe someone has something to say or a point that was not previously made. Or indeed it could start a bigger conversation of use to others. The chap asking the questions is being polite and making a simple request, should you not wish to answer...then simply don't. I see little to be gained by simply saying "search" This comes across as being less than helpful which in my mind is what these forums are all about. In general I find that most BMW drivers are more than helpful and when someone takes the time to help me it instill's a sense of camaraderie amongst people whom share a common interest in cars. Please don't take this as bagging those who say search or similar, its intention is to make those that don't have enough knowledge or experience comfortable posting, with the resulting increase in posters. I would think if I was a first time user and I got such a curt reply I would possible not return to forums.

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Your main point of getting off topic (mistake#1), was to announce your opinion in a tech forum (mistake #2) that one should not post unless they are making an effot to answer the question originally asked. And yet you made no effort to do so(mistake #3) used

You said you spend a lot of time reading forums, then you should know that many who join do so to ask one question that they don't care to involve a significant amount of data to sift through.

As the initial question states, they are brand new to the whole M3 world, meaning they probably weren't asking for an immense amount of info. For that I offered a brief overview of the differences, and most cost effective means to happiness. IF that wasn't sufficient enough, they could probe deeper into a very broad question.

It's not wise to attack someone who has spent the last year of his life doing his best to answer thousands of questions asked about the cars we love(mistake#4). If you wish to help fine. If you wish to argue over the relevance to an answer given, politely refrain. If you disagree, refer to robbins advice.
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Originally posted by jllphan+Jan 9 2005, 10:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jllphan @ Jan 9 2005, 10:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ritrka@Jan 8 2005, 01:08 AM

Greetings, slightly off topic..apologies. Not in response to above reply.
Am I alone in thinking that forums are designed for people to ask questions and receive answers. I spend a lot of time reading forums, yet despite this I still have need to ask questions occasionally. There is also the point that whilst there are, as a prior poster stated, numerous things in which you could search for, maybe someone has something to say or a point that was not previously made. Or indeed it could start a bigger conversation of use to others. The chap asking the questions is being polite and making a simple request, should you not wish to answer...then simply don't. I see little to be gained by simply saying "search" This comes across as being less than helpful which in my mind is what these forums are all about. In general I find that most BMW drivers are more than helpful and when someone takes the time to help me it instill's a sense of camaraderie amongst people whom share a common interest in cars. Please don't take this as bagging those who say search or similar, its intention is to make those that don't have enough knowledge or experience comfortable posting, with the resulting increase in posters. I would think if I was a first time user and I got such a curt reply I would possible not return to forums.

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Your main point of getting off topic (mistake#1), was to announce your opinion in a tech forum (mistake #2) that one should not post unless they are making an effot to answer the question originally asked. And yet you made no effort to do so(mistake #3) used

You said you spend a lot of time reading forums, then you should know that many who join do so to ask one question that they don't care to involve a significant amount of data to sift through.

As the initial question states, they are brand new to the whole M3 world, meaning they probably weren't asking for an immense amount of info. For that I offered a brief overview of the differences, and most cost effective means to happiness. IF that wasn't sufficient enough, they could probe deeper into a very broad question.

It's not wise to attack someone who has spent the last year of his life doing his best to answer thousands of questions asked about the cars we love(mistake#4). If you wish to help fine. If you wish to argue over the relevance to an answer given, politely refrain. If you disagree, refer to robbins advice.
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I dont think he was directing his oppinion toward you. I would have posted in the same place that way the people that just replied "search" could see what he has to say. You gave moe a good answer though.
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the m3 is just a better car! just go sit in one and you wont want a 328 haha

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Old 01-11-2005, 09:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yeah...M3's are champions. but a 325is is better than a 328.........
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Originally posted by jllphan+Jan 10 2005, 02:56 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jllphan @ Jan 10 2005, 02:56 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ritrka@Jan 8 2005, 01:08 AM

Greetings, slightly off topic..apologies. Not in response to above reply.
Am I alone in thinking that forums are designed for people to ask questions and receive answers. I spend a lot of time reading forums, yet despite this I still have need to ask questions occasionally. There is also the point that whilst there are, as a prior poster stated, numerous things in which you could search for, maybe someone has something to say or a point that was not previously made. Or indeed it could start a bigger conversation of use to others. The chap asking the questions is being polite and making a simple request, should you not wish to answer...then simply don't. I see little to be gained by simply saying "search" This comes across as being less than helpful which in my mind is what these forums are all about. In general I find that most BMW drivers are more than helpful and when someone takes the time to help me it instill's a sense of camaraderie amongst people whom share a common interest in cars. Please don't take this as bagging those who say search or similar, its intention is to make those that don't have enough knowledge or experience comfortable posting, with the resulting increase in posters. I would think if I was a first time user and I got such a curt reply I would possible not return to forums.

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Your main point of getting off topic (mistake#1), was to announce your opinion in a tech forum (mistake #2) that one should not post unless they are making an effot to answer the question originally asked. And yet you made no effort to do so(mistake #3) used

You said you spend a lot of time reading forums, then you should know that many who join do so to ask one question that they don't care to involve a significant amount of data to sift through.

As the initial question states, they are brand new to the whole M3 world, meaning they probably weren't asking for an immense amount of info. For that I offered a brief overview of the differences, and most cost effective means to happiness. IF that wasn't sufficient enough, they could probe deeper into a very broad question.

It's not wise to attack someone who has spent the last year of his life doing his best to answer thousands of questions asked about the cars we love(mistake#4). If you wish to help fine. If you wish to argue over the relevance to an answer given, politely refrain. If you disagree, refer to robbins advice.
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Greetings all
My intention, as I stated was not to bag or be critical of others comments...simply to make people whom post for a first time comfortable with simply being here and participating. My post, whilst I stated was off topic, was in direct relation to a former 1st post. As DoThe Dew correctly stated none of this was directed at Jllphan. Indeed my first line stated exactly that...apologies if it came across that way. The advice given was helpful and constructive, I'm sure this was exactly what moe19x was after. The views stated by robbins6103 are exactly the type of comment forums can do without. Are we not here to be helpful and work together helping those whom need it? No doubt this will spark a new avalanche of negative unconstructive comments...so be it. If moe19x feels somewhat more comfortable posting then its all worthwhile. For my part I drive a 98 328 and am about to undergo an E46 M3 transplant. (see other posts) Yes I would rather have brought an M3 to start with but money at the time didnt permit. Now I have taken to the 328 and enjoy its sleeper status. It will comfortably pull to the end of the clock (accuracy?) and can comfortably sit with much more exotic machinery when asked. As mentioned there is also the benefits with insurance. Again to those, like Jllphan whom take the time to answer...thankyou, to those whom choose arogance over help.....get a life!
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yeah...M3's are champions. but a 325is is better than a 328.........
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Wait did you just say 325is's are better than 328's? are you refering to the 4 doors or 2 doors.?
cuz im pretty damn sure my 328is can keep up with an m3 (to a certain speed)....and pretty much burn a 325

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cuz im pretty damn sure my 328is can keep up with an m3 (to a certain speed)....and pretty much burn a 325


wrong.the 328 couldnt keep up with a m3. the 325 and 328 arent to much different in hp speaking because of the 328 was OBD-2 and the 325 is OBD-1. the 2.5liter was made a 2.8liter accomdate the loss of hp in the 325 by making the emissions stricter. maybe a 2-3hp differnece i cant remember off the top of my head. although the bearly any difference in horsepower, the 2.8 liter puts out more trq.
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