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Old 08-14-2008, 07:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Kyle,

how would soldering make things any different? You're still gonna put shrink tubing over it and that's gonna be it. What's it gonna do being twisted together? Come apart? It's not gonna be subjected to space shuttle thrust.

Besides, it's 12 volts and there are fuses ... at the very worst, it's gonna start blowing fuses some day and he's gonna have to take it apart to find what's going on. Not really an issue since apparently he likes tinkering with this stuff.
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honestly solder will hold up better that those kingergarden twist splices...even a damn shrink tube butt connector...yes they do make those...except that when you heat them it MELTS it all together...no room for oxidation, wear, etc this is what most dealers/manufacturers use now
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I didn't read through the DIY, since I already have the 18-button OBC, but I know several people are looking for a good guide for this job.

I have two EE degrees and, personally, prefer soldering. However, if your wires are well crimped using the right hardware, you should be fine. When I installed my Sirius receiver in my 328i, I didn't solder anything. Good ole crimping and some electrical tape is what I used.

Thanks for writing all this up. I know I never have the dedication to document the work I do on my car.

Anyone who reads this must understand that you are not a mechanic and that you are simply sharing your experience with any others interested in doing the same work on their cars.

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I didn't read through the DIY, since I already have the 18-button OBC, but I know several people are looking for a good guide for this job.

I have two EE degrees and, personally, prefer soldering. However, if your wires are well crimped using the right hardware, you should be fine. When I installed my Sirius receiver in my 328i, I didn't solder anything. Good ole crimping and some electrical tape is what I used.

Thanks for writing all this up. I know I never have the dedication to document the work I do on my car.

Anyone who reads this must understand that you are not a mechanic and that you are simply sharing your experience with any others interested in doing the same work on their cars.

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how would soldering make things any different? You're still gonna put shrink tubing over it and that's gonna be it. What's it gonna do being twisted together? Come apart? It's not gonna be subjected to space shuttle thrust.

Besides, it's 12 volts and there are fuses ... at the very worst, it's gonna start blowing fuses some day and he's gonna have to take it apart to find what's going on. Not really an issue since apparently he likes tinkering with this stuff.
Thats fine, he can wreck his own car...the problem is he is passing it off as a HOW TO DIY thread...thats not a proper way to do it...i still would prefer some kind of disclaimer saying something to the extent

"this is not a proper way to do this as it has been proven time and time again that these wires will eventually corrode or separate so please use a butt connector, solder with shrink tube as that is the industry safety standard"
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there...now this is an acceptable DIY...sorry del i couldnt just ignore it...i didnt want you or anyone of this board to be responsible for any possible damages..
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I normally agree with you, but honestly, you're just talking shit about this DIY because you don't like Delmarco.
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that is 100% factually untrue..i could care less...if you posted this DIY i would rip into you also, hell if the Prof or Trigg posted this i would flame them...talk to any mechanic who doesnt work in some shade tree garage and they with slap their forehead as soon as they see twisted together wires with a shrink tube over it...i know you like to instigate emir but this time you fail

Nothing personal Olaf if i really hated you i would have just deleted this write up...but its close enough to good aside from the splicing that i figured it would do more good than bad here
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that is 100% factually untrue..i could care less...if you posted this DIY i would rip into you also, hell if the Prof or Trigg posted this i would flame them...talk to any mechanic who doesnt work in some shade tree garage and they with slap their forehead as soon as they see twisted together wires with a shrink tube over it...i know you like to instigate emir but this time you fail

Nothing personal Olaf if i really hated you i would have just deleted this write but...but its close enough to good aside from the splicing that i figured it would do more good than bad here
OK Mr. "I do everything by the book:". You're becoming as much of a snob as the e36 kids on bf.c. Give the man a fuckin' break. If he wants to twist wires, his car, he can do it. I put a stock amp back in my car and I twisted every single one of the 30 or so wires going to and from the amp. Been almost a year, has my car burned to the ground? No. Did I blow one fuse? No. Is my stereo working? Yes.

If you don't like his DIY, delete it, this site is fuckin' worthless anyway because everyone thinks they know everything. Sure as fuck wouldn't be the first time a DIY (or 100s) went missing.
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so that's why you are soo offended...because you are a wire twister too...

the problem with bimmerforums is a bunch of kids doing shady work and passing it off as good...thats why i dont post there..

get your panties out of your butt and get over it Emir...i am, i just wanted a disclaimer on there and im happy
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Iv connected everything as was described in Pelican HowTo and other numerous howto's. Iv got problem that no speed information is comming to OBC.
Iv descirbed that in that post:
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e. White OBC Connector Pin Slot 9 (White/Grey); Splice with 3 feet of 20 gauge wire, run to the Odometer and extract a female pin w/ pig tail attached from your old 7 or 11 Button MID/OBC Black Connecter and splice this pin’s pig tail wire to the other end of the 3 feet of 20 gauge wire. This female pin will be inserted into Pin Slot 10 on the Blue Odometer (X17) Connector. Be sure to check before hand to see that the Pin Slot 21 on X16 is indeed empty and doesn’t already have a wire going into it. If it does have a wire you can just tap into that wire. This provides all the Speedometer data (average speed, distances, etc…) for the OBC.
I dont get it: You want to connect OBC PIN9 to X17 PIN10. What about that PIN21 of X16... I dont get it what do You mean: I can connect OBC PIN9 to PIN21 of X16 as well?
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Actually, I forgot to finish mentioning in the INTRO section. The main reason I became interested in this OBC upgrade project recently is my new HU that I ordered a few weeks ago will be the Clarion DXZ845MC (seen below) and I wanted the amber text dash to all match up in both color and font style.
Since the 18 Button OBC Font is much more amber and pixellated than the Pocket Calulator font styles used on the lesser 7 and 11 Button OBCs.

I had been meaning to read this for a while now. My only question is, where did your new climate control come from? It is different in this one pic and I've never seen an E36 with controls like that.
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I had been meaning to read this for a while now. My only question is, where did your new climate control come from? It is different in this one pic and I've never seen an E36 with controls like that.
You've really never seen this climate control unit on an E36? That is what came factory on my E36. Maybe they started in 1996 Anyhow, you can always get one on eBay. I don't know if it is a plug-n-play swap to replace the manual control unit.
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