I'm new to this board so please excuse the topic of my first post.
I just wanted to remind everyone here to be careful when driving the canyons in Malibu...for the safety of yourselves and others enjoying the canyons.
I witnessed the worst possible driving by a group of z3/z4 cars (about 8-12 of them) coming down Latigo canyon on 1/31/04 and again today on Piuma (some sedans mixed in too this time).
I happened to be on my motorcycle these two occasions and it is inexcusable to drive public roads like a race track. Both times I saw drivers swerving into oncoming lanes to cut the curves ON BLIND CURVES. I know because I was almost hit by one of them. Had I been in my car the result would have included hospitalization.
Today's ride included rude and harassing comments to a newer female rider that was in our group on Piuma. She was slipping on gravel at the carousel section of Piuma when she was passed (buzzed is more the word to describe it). Spooked her good, then SHE gets a lashing from another driver?! WTF. That ended her ride.
Whether in my car or on my motorcycle I am an enthusiast same as you all and I enjoy the canyons just like anyone else here. But this kind of reckless behavior threatens the open access to these canyons that we enjoy. More crashes brings more police coverage.
You want to race, take it to the track. Willow has some great track days and is a fast track.
I dont know if anyone here was part of either group but I thought I would post this as a reminder to drive safe.
its important to remember where you are and who is around you. we are all somewhat guilty of driving outside of the law in one way or another, however the way you choose to do so can either become just another drive or could become the last day of your life , or even worse someone elses.
please guys and gurls be carefull and choose what you do wisely.
I ususally drive fast and to some, it seems like it may be reckless, ie on the freeway, but I see what is coming and know the limits of my car so I exploit them!! But when it endangers others like on blind turns or any traffic at all, I drive very civil!! It depends on the situation but anyone who owns a fast car or a fast bike cant say they dont drive it fast(what would be the point of the vehicle then?) and if you dont then there is something wrong with you and you shouldnt own the car!! But Driving safetly is important and good to practice, reckless swirving into oncoming tradffic is just fucken foolish
BTW, which driving school did you attend? if you haven't gone, you don't know what you don't know and it's only a matter of time before you f--k up yourself or someone else.
Driving fast for no reason gets you this:
I dunno if you guys knew about it, but I wrecked my car. It happened last Wednesday night, after coming back from a weekly meet-up of all the badass rides.
Coming from Sonic on FM3040, there's a loop that gets you to 121b, and I was doing that around 55-60 with no problem, and as I exited the loop, I added a little more gas to exit the loop faster, and then there was an onramp which gets you directly to 121 South, and as I was trying to get on to that ramp, I hit a wetspot with heated tires, ass end comes loose, I try my best to control it by countersteering, but biggest mistake I did was I tapped the brakes. Had I just applied more throttle, it would've straightened out. And next thing I know, I hit the concrete barrier at around 65-70mph. Both airbags deployed, front end is messed up, even though it doesnt appear to be in pictures. It's officially totalled.
I may consider buying the car back and parting it out. I figure I may try it local first to see if anyone is interested.
I was comming up to school in colorado for the year and on my way up here i was hitting some good speeds and out of no where around this turn this car comes flying at me, in my lane, racing another car. luckily the car swerved back into his own lane but if i hadnt hit my brakes when i saw him comming at me he would have definitly hit me. I was scared shitless for about an hour after that happened, and if i would have seen the person one second later there would have definitly been a crash. if i ever see someone doing that shit again ill probably turn around, chase them down and beat the crap out of them for almost killing me.
hopefully no one here is that dumb of a driver as this person was
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hey, it's all bs, driving fast doesn't mean you are going to crash any more than a typical a$$hole on the road. There are more accidents on I-75 and 696 here in Michigan due to morons driving slow or messing with their radio or cell phone than those that do the street racing or, like here there are a group of cars that tend to do highway racing at night when there's no traffic.. statistics show that less accidents happen due to street racers than everyday traffic...... you tell me what drivers are causing the accidents...
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Originally posted by bimmerfan620@Feb 24 2004, 10:12 PM hey, it's all bs, driving fast doesn't mean you are going to crash any more than a typical a$$hole on the road. There are more accidents on I-75 and 696 here in Michigan due to morons driving slow or messing with their radio or cell phone than those that do the street racing or, like here there are a group of cars that tend to do highway racing at night when there's no traffic.. statistics show that less accidents happen due to street racers than everyday traffic...... you tell me what drivers are causing the accidents...
I won't necessarily disagree with you BimmerFan620 that many people do not give near enough attention to their driving.
I am frustrated quite often by people on cell phones, left lane hogs, people who don't use their turn signals..........
There may be MORE traffic accidents caused by your everyday drivers, but the very nature of racing, especially street racing means pushing the limits of your skill and your car (relative to normal driving). Thus, when there is an accident caused by street racing, it will likely be MORE catastrophic.
I don't have any facts to cite to you, this just seems common sense to me.
I have been driving for over 15 years, and I shiver at how crazy I used to drive (luckily never had an accident). Just because some rich boy can soup up his engine to have crazy power, doesn't mean he knows crap about how to control it.
I am definitely not saying not to have fun in your car, but the day that you think you have it all under control, is the day you will lose it.
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Originally posted by bimmerfan620@Feb 24 2004, 09:12 PM hey, it's all bs, driving fast doesn't mean you are going to crash any more than a typical a$$hole on the road. There are more accidents on I-75 and 696 here in Michigan due to morons driving slow or messing with their radio or cell phone than those that do the street racing or, like here there are a group of cars that tend to do highway racing at night when there's no traffic.. statistics show that less accidents happen due to street racers than everyday traffic...... you tell me what drivers are causing the accidents...
thats because the intire general public doesnt street race.
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