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E36 M3 v. 328i; E39 528i; v. E46 M3

Damn I had a fun drive today.

In the last week, I've driven over 2300 miles, from DC to Raleigh/Durham to Louisville to Chicago to Milwaukee to Madison to South Bend, IN, and to DC (home) today. You could say my new tires have been broken in.

Thursday: Travelling out of Madison, an E36 325/328 (debadged with a two-tip stock exhaust) flashed me the victory sign after pulling even. I think you know the result of this one. Cat and mouse in traffic afterward was fun, though.

Saturday: Ohio turnpike, about 60ish miles east of the IN border, I'm in cruise control in the middle lane of three at 80mph. This E39 528i with three guys in it pulls up on my left and wants to go. There's nobody else around, and Mr. Valentine is busy protecting me against the state troopers. We floor it. Before I know it, I set a new personal speed record in the M3 at 145 mph. I didn't even realize I was going that fast until I looked at the speedo; the poor guys in the 528i manage to catch up eventually a while after I braked to 95. I love seeing people looking from behind at the M3 in awe.

I-70 east tonight, for the 20 miles before I-270 breaks off, an E46 M3 and I had a little fun. The guy had just bought his car, evident from the dealer advertisement tag on the back. It was also evident that he doesn't know how to drive his car quite yet, since there's really no excuse for my car to beat him in ANY gear. Maybe it was the (fortunately well-banked) corner we took going over 100; I do probably have better handling than he does. After we backed off racing, we played cat and mouse hovering around 80ish until I headed south on 270.

Did I mention that I love my car? Although it sounds like I may have a chance to pick up a good-condition 850i on the cheap...what would you guys do?

BTW, a tire recommendation: my new General Tire Exclaim UHP's grip the road better than any previous tire I've had on a bimmer (Sumitomo, Kumho, Michelin, Continental).



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e36 and e46 handling should be about even, if I recall. Let me check up on that.


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E46's are heavier than E36's, bone stock, and that would prejudice handling in favour of the E36.

Besides that, I've got a few suspension upgrades :-)



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e36 m3
0-60MPH = 5.6 Seconds (Road and Track)
1/4 Mile Time = 14.2 Seconds (Road and TracK) I've seen 14.0 and 13.9 accomplished before on stock M3's...
60MPH-0 = 114 Ft.
Skidpad = .91G
Slalom, MPH = 63.6

e46 m3
0-60 mph: 4.7 sec
0-100 mph: 11.6 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.2 sec @ 109 mph
Skidpad: .91g
Top Speed: 155 mph (limited)
Braking, 60-0 mph: 112 ft
Slalom Speed: 65.1 mph



Hmm.... I have heard up to 69.4 on the e36 m3 on slalom, but I have not as of yet driven the e46 m3 (going to test drive it; I'm sure it feels different).

According to those numbers (The e46 was pulled from a different source though, so this really is all shit), it seems like the e46 gets it. Althuogh I wouldn't be surprised if the e36 is just that more confident into the turns. Also, with equal squidpad numbers, slalom really just comes down to driver confidence.


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I went out to the West Virginia mountains tonight with two friends. LOTS of curvy roads. We stopped on the top of the mountain and I could smell my tires and brakes cooking. It's been a good driving week :-)

Then on the way home, doing the speed limit on a straightaway, my transmission warning light came on. wtf?



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850 is a nice car, but the v12 is supposed to be pretty tempermental, so i'd keep the m if i were you, but again..the 850 is a super sick car that is badass, just might take a lil more maintenance than the m..but your call..the m will be abit quicker..

as for e36 m3 vs e46 m3 goes..e46 ftw.

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