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325i vs Civic Si

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#1 ·
What would win? (drag)
if maybe ya could figure it out civic si is a 2.3 liter 4cyl on a civiic chasis...

i think bmw 325i (sedan) would win
 
#11 ·
Sounds to me like a race that would ultimately be dicided by driver skill and not hp/torque numbers.
 
#13 ·
A civic Si is roughly 2800 lbs. Its a 1.6 liter, not 2.3 inline 4 cylinder. Find out what engine he has. If it is the d16a or the b16a. One has 108 hp and the other has 170hp and 110 ft/lbs of torque. This is due to compression, head design and VTEC. Its all high end power, the powerband starts at 6000 and ends at 7600. Your 325is is 3080 lbs and is a 2.5 liter inline 6 with 188 hp and 181 ft/lbs of torque. All of this is mid rev power, from 4100-5900 rpms. This race will all lie with who has better gearing and whos a better launcher. Youll get him off the start though, no question about it. He may pull past you in 3rd though
 
#15 ·
even a 318 would have a chance....but it is light
naw 318 would have almost no chance of winning. In a straight line that is, bring in the curvies and i dont know what would prevail, the better suspension and RWD or the power. 318 methinks
 
#18 ·
Sorry to say but honda never has and most likely never will make a 2.3 liter engine. they have made in the past and currently a 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 2.0, 2.2, 2.5(acura), 3.0, and 3.5 (acura)

The only engines that come in civics were 1.5, 1.6, and 2k3s have 1.7L. The SI hatches have 2.0 liters
 
#19 ·
Originally posted by Spetsnaz Op+Apr 24 2003, 07:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spetsnaz Op @ Apr 24 2003, 07:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--GreenDragon@Apr 23 2003, 09:42 PM
Sounds to me like a race that would ultimately be dicided by driver skill and not hp/torque numbers.
really? very interesting. I would think that the BMW would turn that Si into mincemeat...........even a 318 would have a chance....but it is light [/b][/quote]
You could be driving an F1, bog the launch, grind into second, and that Si will have beat you down like a red headed step child.

Fox - Good call.
 
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#20 ·
here guys, I think I know my hondas pretty well.

Honda Civic Si (old version, the ones that are equipped in hatchbacks) 108hp

Newer Honda Civic SI 127hp

Honda Civic SIR (not the SI but the SIR) has 160.

if you are racing an SIR you won't have much of a chance, the car is really light and once they hit 3rd gear along with V tec, he's gone

your 325 has 184hp - 189hp depending on the year.
 
#21 ·
LoL guest... so what the honda has 160 hp, it still has no torque and thats what matters. The honda has 110 ft/lbs of torque and thats at 5000 rpms, the bmw has 170 ft/lbs and it starts at 4000 rpms. Its not that light, its 2700 or 2800 depending on year. And so what if the honda has vtech. VTEC engages at 4500 rpms, so your statement about him hitting 3rd and VTEC egaging is false. If he is a good driver after the first part of 1st gear VTEC should never disengage because all his power will be at 7000 rpms anyway. If the cars had power to match, then the honda would pull at the top of everygear. HOWEVER, his e36 bmw is equiped with VaNoS which engages twice though the power band. So bmw is still better here, there, and every where. So Sam I am I will not eat your green eggs and ham.

BTW the 108 hp engine your talking about is the d16a. And it hasnt been put in a honda since '95. he said this was a 2k3
 
#23 ·
Which Civic Si is 2.3L??? the old ones were 1.6L (aka B16 for all you riceheads)

the ITR is the B18

honda makes dinky little shit motors. 2.3L is like a pontiac 4-pot or a 4-pot from a prelude...
 
#24 ·
lol i should pull up in reverse one day next to a ricer and start revving...
 
#26 ·
Which Civic Si is 2.3L??? the old ones were 1.6L (aka B16 for all you riceheads)
LoL im glad someone is reading my stuff.... (sarcasim, i just wrote 2 paragraphs saying that there is no 2.3)
 
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