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#1 (permalink) Old 04-28-2005, 09:30 PM
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Just read in car and driver that a 6 speed manual transmision will be avilable as an option for the e60 m5 starting 2007, it will only be sold in the states, americans it says wanted the joy of a clutch pedal so bmw made one just for the USA; how nice



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How very unusual. Europe is all about manuals used

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How very unusual. Europe is all about manuals used
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Ye, i don't get it either... they should make one for the Europeans too

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Europe gets a SMG-II gearbox.
Which is a hydrualically operated manual gearbox.

And automatic gearbox is not an option anywhere.

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PIMP!!!!!!!!!! im gonna get me like 8 of them now that they are 6 speed manual trannys


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You guys do realize that they will be slower than their SMG counterparts, dont you ?

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launch control might still eb there but the 7 speed will have a better top end i bet, and or better acceleration through the midrange, the thing is though most like the feel of a clutch pedal



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ya, smg is rediculously fast... but manual is still more fun

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PIMP!!!!!!!!!! im gonna get me like 8 of them now that they are 6 speed manual trannys
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launch control might still eb there but the 7 speed will have a better top end i bet, and or better acceleration through the midrange, the thing is though most like the feel of a clutch pedal
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Honestly, as nice as the clutch feel is, I'd take the SMG2 M5 over a stick... just imagine if you fuck up the clutch how much money it will cost you... you're looking at like 5 grand.

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Honestly, as nice as the clutch feel is, I'd take the SMG2 M5 over a stick... just imagine if you fuck up the clutch how much money it will cost you... you're looking at like 5 grand.
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Agreed. I'm a BIG fan of the SMG... I like clutch and all.. but SMG is the wave of the future.
I said that to be dramatic. I want SMG in my car (SMG-II would be THOOPER).


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I havent had first hand experience with SMG, but if I learned how to use it well in the twisties i might consider it.


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I havent had first hand experience with SMG, but if I learned how to use it well in the twisties i might consider it.
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Originally posted by Torque+Apr 29 2005, 08:33 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Torque @ Apr 29 2005, 08:33 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-///M Power@Apr 29 2005, 01:30 PM
I havent had first hand experience with SMG, but if I learned how to use it well in the twisties i might consider it.
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watch that 320i dtm video if u can find it...
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No race cars have smg gearboxes.

Touring cars (320i in WTCC for example) use stand H-pattern.
Older supertouring cars and M3 GTR uses dogboxes. (Real true sequential gearboxes)

And no BMW in DTM since the M3's in 91 (plus minus one).


The SMG-II works nicely in the twisties, gives middle gas (blips the throttel) automatically and shifts pretty fast.


The clutch was the largest weakness of the E39 M5.

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I havent had first hand experience with SMG, but if I learned how to use it well in the twisties i might consider it.
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watch that 320i dtm video if u can find it...
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No race cars have smg gearboxes.

Touring cars (320i in WTCC for example) use stand H-pattern.
Older supertouring cars and M3 GTR uses dogboxes. (Real true sequential gearboxes)

And no BMW in DTM since the M3's in 91 (plus minus one).


The SMG-II works nicely in the twisties, gives middle gas (blips the throttel) automatically and shifts pretty fast.


The clutch was the largest weakness of the E39 M5.
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Sorry, not DTM, but this is what I meant:

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