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View Poll Results: Which car would win on a track?
325i, manual, sport package. 8 57.14%
330i, auto, no sport package. 6 42.86%
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i think it would be close

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depends who is driving. Same driver, same car....then I would got with the 330

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330 either way, a perfect driver in a 5speed 325 would make it pretty close but still not fast enough
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330 either way, a perfect driver in a 5speed 325 would make it pretty close but still not fast enough
No, no, no.............it depends on the driver. i have seen drivers who have very little driving experience and have big, powerful cars and they still can't match an experience driver with a less powerful car. between the 325 and the 330, there isn't ALL that much of a difference in power.

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lol AZ yes there is....41hp? and i dont know the torque figure.......but 41hp is alot and either way the 330 would win, i dont think BMW would make a less expensive car, outperform there more expensive ones
 
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I don't understand what is better about manual over automatic. I'm sure on of you can explain it to me. Because the only explanation I've ever received is that in manual you can shift at higher rpm's. But my car shifts at redline and its an automatic.

Also I have an automatic 328is. There is a way you can switch it to manual. Do you think it would be better to drive it in manual or drive it in 3 in auto (sport mode) I usually drive in 3 because I dont see a difference.
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there is a possibility of you being able to shift faster in manual, and also being able to "launch" you car, in all realality, BMW's steptronic tranny shifts incredibly fast, only to be quickened by dinans tranny software...if not for dropping the clutch on a manual, steptronic would just as quick
 
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So I should use manual mode to go faster in my car? And if I do use the manual mode do I have to downshift?
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you have a e36 right? if so, switch the switch to M and pull the shifter back into first when ya wanan shift to second, push it into 2, then 3 then 4
 
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So I should use manual mode to go faster in my car? And if I do use the manual mode do I have to downshift?
obviously you don't know how to drive stick. stick shift cars are a lot faster in acceleartion. the 325i does 0 to 60 in 7.1 seconds in manual, and 8.1 in automatic.

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That was no help at all.
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That was no help at all.
if u have a great launch and nail the 1-2 shift then u can get around 7flat in a 325i, but normal shifting and a normal launch would put u around 8 sec in the manual aswell.
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there is a possibility of you being able to shift faster in manual
False false false false false.
No one, no matter what short shifter will be able to outshift a modern automatic tranny. Its just impossible.

Now in my mind there is absolutly no question about it that the 325 will win. This is because im assuming by track you meant autocross track and not a stupid 1320 track. If its the quarter mile then an automatic would win no question, auto is better for the 1320, better starts and more power on the start (most auto trannys now come with fuzzy logic which computes when the most torque has been reached before shifting). However saying this is a real track, the manual would win because automatic transmissions cannot downshift worth shit. It takes forever for it to realize it needs to compensate for more power and downshift. So coming and going out of each turn, when you downshift in the manual you will shoot past the automatic which will take half way through a turn to downshift. However going out onto the straight the 330 will pull past again.

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but who can get a great launch and nail the 1-2 shift QUICKLY while under pressure? shame on you guys who voted the 325...
 
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you can shift faster in a manual, just do it quickly. mario andretti can shift in .08 seconds i believe.

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