Bmw Starts With Turbo's Again!! - BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com
Bimmer Talk/Motorsports Talk Bringing the BMW community together, sharing NEWS, stories, and experiences.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
#1 (permalink) Old 05-13-2005, 10:05 AM
Super Moderator
 
dutchbmw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SW Minnesota
Posts: 5,370
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to dutchbmw
(Thread Starter)
HOT NEWS share it!!

BMW is putting a Biturbo on the 3L engines. Next year the 3-series 330 will be equiped with a biturbo which increases the HP rate from 258 HP to an incredible 330 HP!! The new M3 gets a V8 with ~400 HP.

I've read this in my weekly car magazine.

BMW '96 M3 (SOLD)
June 2005 Car Of The Month!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Torque
I was just dropped off here by aliens one day. They got bored with me.
dutchbmw is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#2 (permalink) Old 05-13-2005, 10:42 AM
You Can Has A Custom Title!!
 
Slvr e39's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Saratoga, CA
Posts: 3,867
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute Slvr e39 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Slvr e39
No turbo's! BMW's are N/A cars...

Dinan Stg 2 Phoenix Yellow M3
Slvr e39 is offline  
#3 (permalink) Old 05-13-2005, 10:46 AM
7th Gear (SMG)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,109
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
4evrwyntr is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to 4evrwyntr Send a message via MSN to 4evrwyntr Send a message via Yahoo to 4evrwyntr
Face it, BMW MUST sell out, or else in the end they too will ...
Hell, they shouldn't. There are so many people out ther in bmw's who don't know what they're driving, and we need to become more exclusive anyway.
Too bad that's not how economics works.


Crap, I think I may be a yuppie...
1998 BMW e36 M3 Sedan
2003 MINI Cooper
4evrwyntr is offline  
#4 (permalink) Old 05-13-2005, 11:32 AM
drz
Administrator
 
drz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tee Ex
Posts: 12,129
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute drz has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to drz Send a message via MSN to drz
I have been so proud of BMWs N/A engines. I guess people don't pay attention to that, so BMW will have to cater to the people.

drz is offline  
#5 (permalink) Old 05-13-2005, 12:28 PM
7th Gear (SMG)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,109
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
4evrwyntr is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to 4evrwyntr Send a message via MSN to 4evrwyntr Send a message via Yahoo to 4evrwyntr
Well, history has taught us that it is always the greatest mass of stupid people which leads the pack; not the smallest mass of intelligent people.


Crap, I think I may be a yuppie...
1998 BMW e36 M3 Sedan
2003 MINI Cooper
4evrwyntr is offline  
#6 (permalink) Old 05-13-2005, 01:09 PM
You Can Has A Custom Title!!
 
thekid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Jackson MS
Posts: 3,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute
Sell out? I would like to ask you all 2 simple questions. Which car company was the first to put out a production turbo charged car from the factory? What Car was it and what year?

Then I think you will see that BMW isn't selling out.
thekid is offline  
#7 (permalink) Old 05-14-2005, 03:04 AM
n00b
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 43
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ryan is an unknown quantity at this point
is it an option or does it come standard?

Current Vehicles:
2005 Porsche 997 Carrera
2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Edition
2001 Dodge Stratus with 3000 watts of sound.
1988 E30 BMW 325 (supercharger in progress)

Coming Soon:
Sport Bike, suggestions are welcome!
ryan is offline  
#8 (permalink) Old 05-14-2005, 05:44 AM
Super Moderator
 
dutchbmw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SW Minnesota
Posts: 5,370
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute dutchbmw has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to dutchbmw
(Thread Starter)
I think it comes as an option, to fiil the gap between the 258 HP 330i (without turbo) and the 400 HP M3.

BMW '96 M3 (SOLD)
June 2005 Car Of The Month!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Torque
I was just dropped off here by aliens one day. They got bored with me.
dutchbmw is offline  
#9 (permalink) Old 05-15-2005, 10:14 AM
1st Gear Member
 
PJV 528's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, UK
Posts: 186
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
PJV 528 is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
The new M3 gets a V8 with ~400 HP.


NOOOOOOOOOOO..M3's are inline engines!!

<a href='http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1118083' target='_blank'>Check out my ride!!!</a>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>(From Family Guy) Brian to peter: Well peter you've only got a couple hours left. If your gonna pull a party outta your ass you might wanna stand up!</div>
PJV 528 is offline  
#10 (permalink) Old 05-15-2005, 02:11 PM
You Can Has A Custom Title!!
 
thekid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Jackson MS
Posts: 3,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by thekid@May 13 2005, 12:09 PM
Sell out? I would like to ask you all 2 simple questions. Which car company was the first to put out a production turbo charged car from the factory? What Car was it and what year?

Then I think you will see that BMW isn't selling out.
[snapback]344201[/snapback]
Surely some one can answer this question... Don't make me answer my own question...
thekid is offline  
#11 (permalink) Old 05-15-2005, 04:44 PM
Neutral Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
e30driver is an unknown quantity at this point
that sucks i dont want turbo on bmw's
now we cant go up to a super charged/turbo merc, or any other factory turbo and beet them with an n/a engins.
oh well

the kid i dont know the answer!!! whats the answer????
e30driver is offline  
#12 (permalink) Old 05-16-2005, 07:33 PM
You Can Has A Custom Title!!
 
thekid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Jackson MS
Posts: 3,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute thekid has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by e30driver@May 15 2005, 03:44 PM
that sucks i dont want turbo on bmw's
now we cant go up to a super charged/turbo merc, or any other factory turbo and beet them with an n/a engins.
oh well

the kid i dont know the answer!!! whats the answer????
[snapback]344749[/snapback]
Well since somebody asked... and the only 2002 guy we have doesn't seem to be around...

The answer is: the BMW 2002 Turbo. The first production car with a turbo... I believe it was 1972 give or take two years... So there we have it. BMW was the first...
thekid is offline  
#13 (permalink) Old 05-16-2005, 07:55 PM
Pandemonium Director
 
nukeduster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 2,372
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute nukeduster has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to nukeduster Send a message via MSN to nukeduster
Quote:
Originally posted by thekid+May 16 2005, 04:33 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(thekid @ May 16 2005, 04:33 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-e30driver@May 15 2005, 03:44 PM
that sucks i dont want turbo on bmw's
now we cant go up to a super charged/turbo merc, or any other factory turbo and beet them with an n/a engins.
oh well

the kid i dont know the answer!!! whats the answer????
[snapback]344749[/snapback]
Well since somebody asked... and the only 2002 guy we have doesn't seem to be around...

The answer is: the BMW 2002 Turbo. The first production car with a turbo... I believe it was 1972 give or take two years... So there we have it. BMW was the first...
[snapback]345043[/snapback]
[/b][/quote]

it was first raced in 69, made public available in 73.

nukeduster is offline  
#14 (permalink) Old 05-16-2005, 08:07 PM
3rd Gear Member
 
kid667's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Salt Lake Shitty, UT
Posts: 605
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
kid667 is an unknown quantity at this point
Honestly... why would you guys hate turbos? I mean its kinda cool that BMW does have the best N/A engines... but... turbos are awesome too... how is that selling out? I just don't understand... used

<img src='http://myspace-197.vo.llnwd.net/00195/79/17/195587197_l.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
kid667 is offline  
#15 (permalink) Old 05-17-2005, 12:05 PM
7th Gear (SMG)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,109
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
4evrwyntr is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to 4evrwyntr Send a message via MSN to 4evrwyntr Send a message via Yahoo to 4evrwyntr
I knew about the 2002; And I'm sure a lot of people here know about it as well. What I mean by sell out is that they are essentially following the mass of other car companies that are turboing, supercharging, and otherwise modifying lesser engines for more oomph. Yes, bmw made the 2002 turbo. Yes, BMW even continued making turbo diesels across the world (just not the US). But they also made some real efficient N/A engines. There's another thread around here somewhere about this topic, and I've stated my views on forced induction. To sum it up, there's nothing really wrong with it, it's more of an opinion based thing. But isn't it much easier to put effort in the turbo than effort in perfecting an engine? Granted, you could do both, and I'm sure BMW will do this right (although all reports show the twin turbo to give really slow 0-60 times for such high amounts of hp - maybe this has something to do with weight). As an purist, I admit that it's hard to see something as perfect as the I6 go in favor of a v8, or the I6 NA go in favor of an I6 t/c or s/c. I for one would think that BMW is doing this more to stem the tide of t/c and s/c cars out there trying to usurp the 3-series from it's lofty perch. And that is selling out. Joining the crowd to beat it.


Crap, I think I may be a yuppie...
1998 BMW e36 M3 Sedan
2003 MINI Cooper
4evrwyntr is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  BMW Forum - BimmerWerkz.com > General Category > Bimmer Talk/Motorsports Talk


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
H&R Cup on an E36 Convertible RJHD3 3-Series (E36) 7 10-19-2005 01:34 AM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome