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#1 (permalink) Old 08-01-2004, 12:41 PM
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Ive got a bit of cash right now and am looking to buy a sub for my alpine hu.

I think 1 12" will do just fine, i have 200-250 to spend. the brands i like are JL, Infinity, and Alpine
for the sub, i think i will go with Infinity, and the amp i will try Alpine

does anyone know anywhere besides ebay that i could get a JL sub?

circuit city is the easiest place to get alpine and infinity for me right now
any suggestions as far as subs and amps go would be helpful

ps: how bad is the sound dampening in the truck of the e36, from what ive been told it ruins the bass


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It really depends what you want and much your willing to spend. IF you're willing to throw down say 400-500 you can get a much better system, that will be balanced with SQ and SPL. IF you REALLY want to spend less you will probabaly end up with a decent sounding system. (although I hate when those Ghetto tin boxes drive by rattling the trunk with junky speakers) Alpine makes a great sub-series. The S being the lower-end model, and the R being the higher. Paired with an Alpine amp, either one of these subs will produce decent sound. but you will be spending minimum 500 dollars total for the box, amp, sub and install. JL or Alpine, you cant loose with those companies, stay away from infinity.

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ive always heard great things about Infinity subs, anybody else have an opinion on infinity?


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I am interested in the sub dampening too. And also if infinity subs are any good. If not, I think I will see if JL will fit into Pres's sub box.

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I know a guy who has 2 JL subs in mint condition... im not sure if they are the high end ones... they are the middle... and 2x 1000 watt amps i beleive.. for 300 bucks... if you want more information... i will get it for you.

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My friend just bought a 12" JL sub and it sounds amazing!!!! Nice basss to!

He also bought a 200 watt Rockford amp which powers the sub pretty well.

The total cost of the JL sub and rockford amp was around 410 and with all the wires he needed it was 477 dollars.
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I've got an Infinity Ref. 1230 being pushed by an Alpine MRV-T420. Awesome sound.

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Tmac, if ya have 250 for the amp and sub, keep saving. For a little more money, you can get WAY better stuff.

As far as subs you can't go wrong wth any of the name brands. Infinity, Alpine, Kicker, JL Audio, etc. are all good subs. Kicker is more SPL and Infinity is more SQ oriented.

When buying an amp look at certain specs.

RMS watts (the higher the number the better) Max. or Peak wattage means nothing
THD (the lower the number the better)
Signal to Noise ratio (the higher the number the better)

Anyone who says don't buy Infinity is ignorant. I'm not saying stupid, just ignorant. I've sold car and home speakers for over a decade, and I KNOW who does and doesn't make great stuff. Infinity is one of the better consumer line speaker MANUFACTURERS (not merely a distributor like many other companies) period. They are more SQ oreinted, but are a FANTASTIC company.

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thanks jll, that post helped me out a lot, im thinking about getting a 12" Infinity, or a 12" Alpine S-type.. and i havent decided on an amp yet

im not looking to go all out, i dont plan on shaking the pavement at the stoplight or in the parking lot, because i cant stand ppl who do that. it sounds horrible and it hurts my ears

i just want a little added bass, but i will only use quality goods on my car, no sony or aiwa or anything.


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if thats what you want, the infinity is perfect for you.

But you can also do some pretty good shaking every once and awhile with it too.

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Totally agree with jllphan. The name game is definitely not worth playing and quite frankly, the differences are few and far in-between. It'd be very wise to maybe save up at least another $200, that way you can grab yourself a 400 -> 600 watt sub and a nice amp.

I'm currently running a 2003 Audiobahn AW1051T (10", 600w max RMS) and a Proflie CL600 amp (2-challenge amp, max 600w bridged). From experience, the 6000 series of subwoofers from MTX & the W2/W3's from JL are three very nice sets of subwoofers that I highly recommend.

As far as amps, I'd personally go with an Audiobahn (possibly something like this). Not that I'm a huge Audiobahn fan boy, but it's hard to deny that they make some well-built products.

One other small thing that I could recommend for you is to look into purchasing a capacitor for whichever amp you choose to buy. To be honest, the $100 price tag is more than worth the protection and the clearer hitting of the subwoofer itself. You can look at a few of them here.

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All 3-series have a ski hatch. If yours is not in use you may like to consider using it as a "sub hatch". I did this on my E30 and now on my E46. Nearly all subs are made to be used in enclosures these days, but some will still work in a "free air" environment. If your ski hatch is not in use remove the carpet from the rear bulkhead of the back seat. You will see the precut ski hatch that you can tap out with a block of wood and small hammer. Get a sheet of 3/4 MDF use the carpet removed earlier as a template. Cut the MDF to size and make sure it fits. After you have chosen your sub, cut a hole in the middle where the ski hatch hole is and mount your sub. The MDF is also useful for fastening your amp to. Cover it with carpet if you want.

For a sub you require one with a high VAS (volume of air space), the higher the better. Basically the bigger the sub the higher the VAS but it is not that simple. Look at the specs. Something like Rockfor Fosgate P112S4, which has a VAS of 107 litres and is still quite cheap would be ideal. This in conjunction with Rockfords own 201S amp bridged for mono will do nicely and cost less than $250. In addition you dont lose your trunk to sub boxes, you don't get loads of BOOM outside the car (the front/rear noise of the sub cancel each other). IT WILL NOT HAVE THE OUT AND OUT SPL AND POWER HANDLING STATED IN THE SPECS!!! But you have said that is not what you are after. What you will end up with soundwise is a tight and very deep bass - not just a boom.
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I would recommend the Alpine line of subs. I own 2 12" R Type subs and i'm not gonna lie, it's the the loudest, boomingest stereo around, but it's by far the clearest. The bass isn't slurred together as it is with a lot of companies, it's clear and crisp. As far as amps go, i would again recommend Alpine. I didn't have enough money to buy one myself, but i've only read great things about them and as soon as i get enough money there will be one in my trunk-no question.
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I know a guy who has 2 JL subs in mint condition... im not sure if they are the high end ones... they are the middle... and 2x 1000 watt amps i beleive.. for 300 bucks... if you want more information... i will get it for you.
let me get some more info.. im trynna get some subs before the new semester starts.
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