I have read that the Infinity 5000CS 5 1/4" Car Speakers are very popular here, but as I now see these MB Quart ESA213 in the same store I am curious. I can't tell from hearing them in a oddly shaped sound room which would be better in my E36 325i... ghead
(For reference, I already have a Sony CDX-M8805X MP3 Deck in the Bimmer.)
Friends of mine in the local Car Audio SPL scene like MBQs but there is no result when I search for them here. Has anyone heard both Speakers used as Front Speakers in the same car? (Any installers here?)
The price is only $20 more for the MBQs...
As well, which speakers should I install to replace the rears?
The infinitys have a true 5.25" woofer size. With their plus-one technology, that brings the woofer to the outside edge and not recessing it back 1/4" all the way around like most manufacturers.
woofer material: mb quart still uses the poly-cone (like sony, pioneer), inifinty uses a woven 'glass cone that gives it it cool gray/green color and provides a more solid cone.
the tweeter is NOT titanium on the infinitys. titanium works great for jewelry or a pin in your broken kneecap, but they are a little harsh for quality car audio.
it doesnt say it on the infinity website, but they give a 2 year warranty from the factory on all kappa speakers, and 3 years on the subs.
I always suggest people to listen to the same song, same headunit, amp. crossover, etc. when comparing speakers. and dont change the volume, you will see that the infinitys play louder than probably anything else on the soundboard. I mean REALLY REALLY listen to them. Pick out a cymbal, listen to the differences, pick out a snare drum, a guitar lick, midbass, etc. REALLY listen to the individual instruments on each of the speakers.
louder is not neccesarily better. the MBs will have a more pronounced sound above 10K (the higher cymbal ranges), but thats about it. they are doing this because the titanium tweeters play these frequencies easier, but they cant play the full spectrum of high frequencies well.
if you still want the MBs after that, i will be suprised. :P
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Originally posted by docrobot@May 27 2005, 12:08 PM The Fronts sound fantastic, especially compared to the factory rears!
Should I use the same components in the rear with some custom work on the rear deck, or use the Infinity 4 inch singles that would drop right in? Why didn't they go to 6 inch rounds or 6x8s? used
Oh, and thanks da_bull, for helping me decide that Infinity was the best choice!
My choice is to use the same brand and series in your choice for the rears. There are subtle differences in the manufacturing of speakers that make them sound different from one another. Some of the things you like about the Infinitys may not be present in another brand, or worse yet may be totally opposite, which would hinder the performance of your new Infinity purchase.
6x8" are pretty much reserved for Fords. If the installation isnt that much more to get the same speakers installed, I would definitely do that. I am not really sure why they dont put a bigger speaker in some of these cars. The price difference is pennies between a factory 4" and a 6.5". A 6.5" ALWAYS will give more sound than a 4" (not neccessarily better, just more).
The only reason I would use a smaller speaker is if I had a sub to reproduce the bass frequencies. A smaller speaker will just not do that very well.
I am glad you are happy with your Infinitys. I think Infinity needs to give me a spiff for selling their product :P . Actually, when I did car audio, I had my choice of ANY speaker brand. I got to go to seminars, got sales rep samples, REALLY listen to differences (during the slow times of the day), try them in my own car, etc. etc. So its not really just specifications, even though Infinitys specs will muster the best of them out there dollar for dollar. Even the Reference line are great speakers for someone that cant afford the Kappas.
I have helped build a few championship cars (two of which have Focal, my choice over the Infinitys, if I can afford them)
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