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#1 (permalink) Old 04-10-2005, 09:10 PM
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Someone just gave me a hand held CB radio. Are these useful at all?

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Depends.

If you like engaging in conversation with sweaty, uneducated fat men that drive large vehicles for a living, then I'd have to say, "that's a big 10-4!!"


Sorry, I couldn't reisist, and no one else responded, I didn't want you to feel ignored.

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Originally posted by jllphan@Apr 10 2005, 10:14 PM
Depends.

If you like engaging in conversation with sweaty, uneducated fat men that drive large vehicles for a living, then I'd have to say, "that's a big 10-4!!"


Sorry, I couldn't reisist, and no one else responded, I didn't want you to feel ignored.
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If you do a LOT of traveling without a map, then it might be useful for finding out where your next pee-break will come from, but for any more than that, I would think no. *cough* GPS *cough*



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jll, the only one uneducated is you you aresehole. Let's see you get off your cushy leather buckets and try to get a CDL. Don't dis truckers. Your precious baby was delivered by one of those fat sweaty uneducated bastards.

Use the CB to sniff out bears... <--THat's uneducated speak for police men.

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^^^case and point^^^

I am justified in my statements, you only help my case with such speak.

btw, I'll take my pilot's license over your CDL all day long. Oh, that's right, my "wing flapping papers," you follow?

You started it, I was just making a joke, you had to take it to the next level. Funny thing is, you make such stereotypes a reality by taking offense.

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And I was gonna stop there (because this is an audio thread, not a general rant thread), but due to your reply, I'm gonna call you out. I said I was justified in my statements, and here's just ONE of many reasons I am....

Many moons ago, I heard an interview with the owner/President of J.B. Hunt. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's one of the larger freight companies here in the states. At any rate, he said that he generally tries to hire uneducated truckdrivers, and would actually hire an individual with little or no education versus one who had. Why? Because he wanted his truckers to concentrate on the road, and nothing else. He didn't want them thinking.

A good friend of mine ownes a decently sized trucking company and practices the same ideology. He says that is the standard practice in such an industry.

As I stated before, your defensiveness stemming from such comments only identifies your insecurities, and the aforementioned confirms them.

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Woah, Been a few days and I must say Jll, I've got be be uneducated if I can't understand your replies...

Who stereotyped? I believe you coined the phrase, "sweaty, uneducated fat men."

I realize it was a joke, you said so in the last line of your post. Even jokes, though innocuous as they may seem, can cause hurt and pain to other people, hence my 'defensive' reply.

Quite frankly, JB Hunt is not the most respected OTR fleet in the country, nor are they the smartest. They milked us dry supplying them trucks at a loss, then switched to a competitor when we tried to actually make a small profit. Now those competitor trucks are falling apart and we won't give them the time of day. Some customers you just don't need.

So it seems the president likes to surround himself with people just like him...

As for your good friend, I think the industry trend is to hire people without ambition, so they can retain drivers. You can be educated and still have no ambition. Ignorance is sometimes mistaken for a lack of ambition, and a lack of ambition is sometimes mistaken for a lack of education.

These people deserve more than our snide comments. Without those fat men, we would have nothing. Not even our beloved BMW's, or parts for them.

Just show a little more respect, especially since you know people in the business.

As for your 'wing flapping papers,' congrats. While I was in the Civil Air Patrol, I took 1 orientation flight in a Cessna 172. 2000' ceiling in a mild rain storm. NO THANK YOU!! You can flap your wings all you want, I'm gonna keep my feet firmly planted. Taking a flight in a C130, was a blast though. 250' over Lake Erie. Now that was fun.

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Awww....THanks man.

Love your car too...

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Woah,* Been a few days and I must say Jll, I've got be be uneducated if I can't understand your replies...

Who stereotyped?* I believe you coined the phrase, "sweaty, uneducated fat men."

I realize it was a joke, you said so in the last line of your post.* Even jokes, though innocuous as they may seem, can cause hurt and pain to other people, hence my 'defensive' reply.

Quite frankly, JB Hunt is not the most respected OTR fleet in the country, nor are they the smartest.* They milked us dry supplying them trucks at a loss, then switched to a competitor when we tried to actually make a small profit.* Now those competitor trucks are falling apart and we won't give them the time of day. Some customers you just don't need.

So it seems the president likes to surround himself with people just like him...

As for your good friend, I think the industry trend is to hire people without ambition, so they can retain drivers.* You can be educated and still have no ambition.* Ignorance is sometimes mistaken for a lack of ambition, and a lack of ambition is sometimes mistaken for a lack of education.

These people deserve more than our snide comments.* Without those fat men, we would have nothing. Not even our beloved BMW's, or parts for them.

Just show a little more respect, especially since you know people in the business.

As for your 'wing flapping papers,'* congrats.* While I was in the Civil Air Patrol, I took 1 orientation flight in a Cessna 172. 2000' ceiling in a mild rain storm.* NO THANK YOU!!* You can flap your wings all you want, I'm gonna keep my feet firmly planted.* Taking a flight in a C130, was a blast though. 250' over Lake Erie.* Now that was fun.

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I was using stereotypes to make a point. Me. I don't make a habit of it, but stereotypes are generally contrived for a reason, because there is a lot of truth to them. I also believe there are exceptions to every rule. You possibly being one of them.

As for jokes hurting feelings, well that depends on how malicious the joke is, and how sensitive one's feelings are. Regarding my remarks, some truck drivers would probably laugh and agree, others would ask me to step outside. It's all relative, but regardless, like I said, I'm justified in my generalizations. I accurately described a majority of trucker's I see and deal with on the road on a daily basis. That's not to say that all are that way, but a lot are, hence the stereotype.

I never said Kirk Thompson was respected, intelligent, or even a good guy. He could be a raving moron for all I know. Regardless, he runs a pretty sizeable operation, and does engage in such practices. Others follow his lead (maybe following the wrong guy INYO, but regardless). Point made.

As for an industry driven by people with no ambition, that's just sad. Never new that, thanks for the insight. That might explain why you don't see firm smiles planted on the faces of most truckers every day! As for educated and no ambition, tell me about it, my roomate personifies the stigma. He's one of the most intelligent people I've ever met, and he's the asst. mgr at a retail store. Sad (and no, he's not happy, so yes it is sad).

I honestly don't think I was being disrespectful. I'm sure you totally disagree, but I'm one who can take a joke, and would hope others can do the same. I'm intelligent enough to realize that not all truck drivers are this way, just having fun on their behalf. One of my favorite people to make fun of is myself, as humility generally caters to innerpeace.

Yeah my whole family has wings. My dad's a retired airline capt., mom's retired flight attendant, sis is a retired flight attendant (going back), my other sis has her private, and have several more in the family (uncles, grandparents, cousins, etc.). IFR conditions in a 172 aren't always fun, but at least you don't have to deal with other idiots around you...just you and mother nature. Frankly I'd rather deal with her.

I don't hate you, I don't even hate truckers, I was just making a joke, and you called me an asshole. I just think you took it the wrong way, and do to your avatar, I felt like messing with you. Speaking of stereotypes...

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What's up with my avatar? I just like elephants.. They poop real big.


So now that we (I) hijacked this thread, why so many pilots/air industry professionals in your family? That's just wierd.

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I know one elephant (actually several) that are full of shit, I guess that would explain the large movements. A lot to get rid of. Oh damn, there I did it...I'll tell you what, we'll leave that one alone, and agree to disagree

Why so many pilots, hmmm...I dunno. Just is. My pops is one of six brothers and four of those six brothers were/are pilots. He was the only one that didn't fly for the military. And mom and dad met from the airlines, so I guess that pretty much explains how it grew.

I actually went through a very good aerospace program, and was a semester away from a degree in the major to go on to engage in such as a career, until I did some soul searching and decided to get into the music business. That was right before 9/11, so I guess it wound up being a good decision. Corporate consolidation, and a scared nation have kinda contributed to most of the airlines going down the pooper as far as pay scale is concerned.

Oh well, enough about that. I take it you are a truck driver? You have your CDL, so I'm guessing so. You don't sound like a guy with no ambition. Your signature elludes to the fact that you at least have enough energy to get hitched, procreate, and tend to a few pets, so you can't be all that stagnent. What gives? Let me into the world known as schilke.

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The world of Unkle Schilke. Never thought of it that way.

Truck driver - no. I work for one of the largest truck manufacturers in the US. Well, I guess now, it's the only wholly US owned truck manufacturer. I graduated with a BSME and worked as a grunt engineer before getting laid off. After getting laid off, I worked for a larger transit bus manufacturer as a manager of powertrain systems. It was here, I got my CDL, unfortunalely, it's only a Class B with a passenger endorsement. SO I can drive anything, as long as it's not a liquid, not hazardous or in a trailer.

So after Bus, they closed shortly after I moved my family 1400 miles. I became a lead grunt engineer working on our new little truck cab, that will be out ater this year. Now I manage our safety defect investigations and handle all government correspondence, customer & dealer notification regarding field campaigns.

Ambition, yes. Education, yes. 'Wing flapping papers,' no way! Give me a 600hp Cummins 16L 6cyl with 2200 lb-ft of torque and a spicer 18 speed anyday!!! Just spent the other day seeing what it is like to manhandle a 20,000lb (very small) truck without power steering. A few orange cones lost their life.

How odd is it. You seem to be more on the side of the donkey (at least not so much on the side of the elephant), started in a technical field, then changed to music.

I started in music, then did some soul searching and found I like money better than happiness, and went into engineering. Then I became an elephant. Oh yeah, pets and procreation happened in there too somewhere.

Our commonalities = BMW!!!!

I think we are near the same age too.

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Give me a 600hp Cummins 16L 6cyl with 2200 lb-ft of torque and a spicer 18 speed anyday!!! Just spent the other day seeing what it is like to manhandle a 20,000lb (very small) truck without power steering. A few orange cones lost their life.

How odd is it. You seem to be more on the side of the donkey (at least not so much on the side of the elephant), started in a technical field, then changed to music.

I started in music, then did some soul searching and found I like money better than happiness, and went into engineering. Then I became an elephant.

Oh yeah, pets and procreation happened in there too somewhere.

I think we are near the same age too.
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I'm neither. Personally, devotion to a sinle political party to the point of calling myself one or the other is narrow minded and dangerous IMO. Some things I'm liberal about, and others I'm conservative, just depends on the issue. Letting another group decide for me just doesn't sound like a great idea.

I think money is overated. I'm happy to work on a life long dream, and have decided to work for pride over finance. Some people are lucky and get both. Working towards getting "there" myself.

I've dodged that bullet thus far. I'm positve you don't see it that way, and once I'm a dad won't either. I just have some more livin' to do first. It's fun being selfish, but somewhat empty too.

29. Oh to be 19 again. Course this is fun too.

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If you're driving on interstates, CB's can be significantly more helpful for avoiding tickets than a radar detector. I learned this the hard way in the early 90's, when I drove back and forth across the country six times from home to school. After my radar detector provided ample warning in Flagstaff, I bought and installed a CB -- the ample warning was that I had just been nailed, and gave me plenty of time to pull over and turn off the beeping detector. The CB, on the other hand, gave me 1-3 miles advance notice of highway patrol, and I never got a ticket after that.

Your handheld version, however, will have a range of less than a mile and slide around on the seat a lot, so it might not be as useful.

A few pointers:

- Don't talk unless you need to. Truckers hate 4-wheelers (as all cars/trucks with two axels are called) because they're like little mice nipping at the heels of an elephant, causing them to lose speed on hills and downshift 8 times, after spending 2 miles plotting their strategy.
- If you need to, talk. As a preppy, liberal arts student, I was amazed by how decent some of the long-haul truckers could be. They're working hard, making a pretty good living, and deserve respect. Shown it, they'll return it, and if you're ever lost, stuck by the side of road, or desperate for a good BBQ, they just might come in handy
- If you do talk, try not to sound like Smokey and the Bandit. It doesn't play.
- Anything useful is on Channel 19, the general road channel. Channel 9 is reserved for emergencies.
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