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Old 11-05-2004, 07:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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When watching an air show what is amazing is not the speed by which these pilots take on but rather the SIGNALING among them. It seems as if every one of them knows exactly and anticipate/calculate the other pilot's next move.

I really think it would be a great idea if BMW employs such signaling technique on the brake lights at least to distinguish between a driver slowing down (a police car on the shoulder) and another slamming the brakes to avoid a rim sitting in the middle lane and hence pile ups. Take into account the following:
A. The third brake light has been doing a great job in preventing pileups since 1986.
B. Any future Mod must take into account the aesthetic aspect-looking good type of a deal.
C. It was a "concept" at Bmw since they use LED lights and it can be altered to produce brighter lights with different breaking patterns.
D. Most of rear-endings result because we are not looking in the right direction. And yah donít push it now because I am not going to suggest involving an extra human sense in this mod of breaking process. That is sounds and/or smell!!!
E. If you fail in this mod; can you give me the existing emergency hazard light to engage in a panic when breaking so hard? Or is this rewiring too much to ask? After all the cops turn their unmarked cruisers into Christmas trees before they chase you!!!

The whole mod is this: give me a sudden/brighter/different break lights while the guy behind me talking on the cell phone and sipping coffee to let him know I just slammed on the breaks (not slowing down) to avoid a rim and/or a deer.

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Old 11-05-2004, 07:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The 2004 and 2005 5-series already has a version (agreed limited) of this. Under normal braking conditions, the third LED light, along with the two regular brake lights shine. Under emergency braking conditions, these plus the regular tail lights light up, "indicating" an emergency stop. The assumption is that the extra brightness of all the rear lights shining will catch your attention and warn you of the emergency stop.
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First: I wish to welcome you to the forum and hope you will enjoy your stay with us.
second: Many thanks to the rather NEW updated information on the new BMW breaking system.

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First: I wish to welcome you to the forum and hope you will enjoy your stay with us.
second: Many thanks to the rather NEW updated information on the new BMW breaking system.

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Gee, thanks for the NEW warm welcome, I think.
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I've thought about this before. I thought about the third high level brake light....... it's a row of leds...... what about if you just touched the brakes you get a shorter row, say just 6 leds in the middle..... the harder you press the brakes, the wider the row .... and if you jump on the brakes you could have a full width row with some super bright leds at the ends of the row.

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This will be an excellent way of signaling; in fact you may want to condiser starting the short row from the right side instead of the middle and then intensify it towards the left for left side driver seats. and make it the opposite (left to right) in case I see the ol...... BEELZIBUB of England chasing my rear view mirror! LOL

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Lightbulb brighter faster more e

LEDs illuminate faster then standard filament globes giving the tailing driver earlier warning...:
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All new BMWs have what is called Adaptive Brake Lights, under normal braking conditions only your normal 3 brake lights illuminate upon an ABS activated stop another row of lights illuminated to warn the drivers behind you that you are slowing down at a rapid rate...in any case it is really cool to see, and would probably work better if more people were aware of it.




Take this X5 for example, the first pic is normal braking, the second pic is hard braking, the third pic is ABS has engaged full time and she is stopping NOW...notice the lighting change? I hope this is useful.
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mercedes has a version of this led technology however instead of extra lights illuminating under emergency brkaing conditions, the leds "pulsate" or blink causing drivers behind to take notice quicker. im not sure if this is in production yet but it sounds like the best attempt so far. flashing light always does a better job of catching your attention.
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