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#1 (permalink) Old 11-01-2013, 12:51 PM
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Need your honest feedback about BMWCCA

Because I am a crazy person and organize events, I reached out to BMWCCA for support in the 15 years of E46 M3 event. While I chatted with them, I got on the topic about how to entice BMW Enthusiasts and younger members to join the national club.
Short story is I have the blessing of BMWCCA to make this post to gather feedback on how BMWCCA can offer more things to have enthusiasts and younger members join the national club.

Please post your honest replies below and I will gather them to send to national. Please also ask all of your friends to chime no matter what their thoughts are so I can present their feelings to national.
Forum admins, please help forum members find this so we can get our voices heard. Also please add your comments on how BMWCCA could support the forum if they are not already doing so. The forums are the backbone of the enthusiast community so we need your input whether good or bad.

If people cannot reply to the forums please have them email me at norcal.drivers@gmail.com with the questions below.
1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?

9. Open comment / suggestion.
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Not sure those of you who are members saw, BMWCCA just sent out a survey which I only can surmise is because of the efforts I am doing to help. Or maybe it was just timing… LOL

Summary of the replies to the questions below across 25 threads I posted.

Complaint questions


Are you a BMWCCA member currently?

a. 70% - YES
b. 30% - NO

What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?
a. Most of the US replied. No Sacramento or LA area replies or I missed them.

If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?
a. Cost of membership is too high.
b. No local activities for remote owners and events are too far away.
c. Discounts on items are cheaper from online members that dealer.
d. Club track / autocross events are to expensive compared to others.
e. Benefits are not worth the cost
f. Poor advertising and had no idea about BMWCCA.

Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?
a. 70% - YES
b. 30% - NO
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Improvement Questions

What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?
a. Cheaper track days and autocross events that are in line with others.
a. Less restrictive track / autocross event rules for convertibles so they are in line with others.
b. DIY group sessions to fix cars and make local knowledge base.
c. Detailing sessions to train and educate on how to keep your ride clean and new.
d. Regional Octoberfest supported by BMWCCA.
e. More drives / tour events with the understanding some people want to drive “spirited” and should be allowed to do so at the front of the pack.
f. Get dealers involved with the local club
g. Social events that are meet and greets and not just the club meeting.
h. Dyno group sessions/
i. Do not focus on wine tours
j. Day drives where the focus is having a drive

Combined these to make it easier

What activities would you like to see on a national level & what type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?
a. Better website that is easier to navigate and has the following:
a. Technical articles on how to maintain your car (partner with forums)
b. More social media presents with Facebook, twitter, Google plus
c. Vendor showcase of products and vehicle propjets
d. Modification ideas presented professionally so people can have information on upgrade ideas
e. Mobile app for people to find events in their region and nationally
f. Classified add on the website for people to find member cars for sale as roundel is old data and not as detailed.
b. Better advertising that the club exists to BMW owners new and second hand
c. All new BMW sales include 1 year of membership
d. More benefits with vendors
a. Free shipping being a BMWCCA member
b. Supporting forums to help promote activities for regional clubs
e. Roundel magazine
a. More articles on people that upgrade / modify their BMW to have higher performance
b. DIY articles on different models
c. Showcase regional chapters events or activities
d. BMW racing update section
f. Car control clinics need to be expanded to more regions
g. Teen driver control clinics / street survival schools
h. Allow more grass roots meet ups and activities to take place
i. National to listen to ideas and be willing to talk about regional clubs about issues they are having and assist in resolving them

Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?
a. Yes – BMWCCA to help members or vendors find hard to get parts from Europe
a. Help find discontinued parts that are still BMW made
b. Help in with finding technical assistance that forums and or local shops cannot find.
c. Help individuals that wish to source factory race parts to either race or other.

Open comment / suggestion.
There was a lot of comment here but in short, the BMW Club is what you make of it. While some chapters have great leaders and others have old do not care leaders, it comes down to if you want a more active regional club, get involved. The more involved the better your club will be.

Most people join because of Roundel and mostly keep their membership because of it.
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Not sure those of you who are members saw, BMWCCA just sent out a survey which I only can surmise is because of the efforts I am doing to help. Or maybe it was just timing… LOL

Summary of the replies to the questions below across 25 threads I posted.

Complaint questions


Are you a BMWCCA member currently?

a. 70% - YES
b. 30% - NO

What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?
a. Most of the US replied. No Sacramento or LA area replies or I missed them.

If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?
a. Cost of membership is too high.
b. No local activities for remote owners and events are too far away.
c. Discounts on items are cheaper from online members that dealer.
d. Club track / autocross events are to expensive compared to others.
e. Benefits are not worth the cost
f. Poor advertising and had no idea about BMWCCA.

Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?
a. 70% - YES
b. 30% - NO
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Improvement Questions

What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?I am with the Puget Sound Club
a. Cheaper track days and autocross events that are in line with others. This would be great, I have better than 5K track miles
a. Less restrictive track / autocross event rules for convertibles so they are in line with others.
b. DIY group sessions to fix cars and make local knowledge base. Our club does this
c. Detailing sessions to train and educate on how to keep your ride clean and new.Our club does this
d. Regional Octoberfest supported by BMWCCA.Our club does this
e. More drives / tour events with the understanding some people want to drive “spirited” and should be allowed to do so at the front of the pack.This would be good
f. Get dealers involved with the local clubTuners as well...
g. Social events that are meet and greets and not just the club meeting.
h. Dyno group sessions/Our club does this
i. Do not focus on wine toursWhat's wrong with wine tours?
j. Day drives where the focus is having a driveOur club does this via "Twisty Tours...we have mountains

Combined these to make it easier

What activities would you like to see on a national level & what type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?
a. Better website that is easier to navigate and has the following:I'm okay with the current website
a. Technical articles on how to maintain your car (partner with forums)Yes
b. More social media presents with Facebook, twitter, Google plus
c. Vendor showcase of products and vehicle propjetsDoesn't Roundel do this already? Dinan, Active Autowerkz. I would like to see a showcase on RD Sport.
d. Modification ideas presented professionally so people can have information on upgrade ideasYES PLEASE...and how to break the BMW Code for more aggressive tuning. Dare I say like GM.
e. Mobile app for people to find events in their region and nationally
f. Classified add on the website for people to find member cars for sale as roundel is old data and not as detailed.Already does this.
b. Better advertising that the club exists to BMW owners new and second hand
c. All new BMW sales include 1 year of membershipThat would be good
d. More benefits with vendorsThat would be good
a. Free shipping being a BMWCCA memberThat would be great
b. Supporting forums to help promote activities for regional clubs
e. Roundel magazine
a. More articles on people that upgrade / modify their BMW to have higher performance
b. DIY articles on different models
c. Showcase regional chapters events or activitiesThis would be great
d. BMW racing update sectionYES, especially since BMW is kicking DTM butt.
f. Car control clinics need to be expanded to more regionsPersonally, I'd like to see them held independent of HPDE events.
g. Teen driver control clinics / street survival schools
h. Allow more grass roots meet ups and activities to take place
i. National to listen to ideas and be willing to talk about regional clubs about issues they are having and assist in resolving themYou'd think they already do this but I do not know if they are doing so our not

Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?This would be awesome
a. Yes – BMWCCA to help members or vendors find hard to get parts from EuropeYes
a. Help find discontinued parts that are still BMW madeYes
b. Help in with finding technical assistance that forums and or local shops cannot find.Yes
c. Help individuals that wish to source factory race parts to either race or other.Yes

Open comment / suggestion.
There was a lot of comment here but in short, the BMW Club is what you make of it. While some chapters have great leaders and others have old do not care leaders, it comes down to if you want a more active regional club, get involved. The more involved the better your club will be.No truer words have ever been spoken

Most people join because of Roundel and mostly keep their membership because of it.
I hope this helps. If there is anything else that I can do to support your efforts, please do not hesitate to ask.

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