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#1 (permalink) Old 05-23-2005, 07:47 PM
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Hi guys, im new to the board, but not BMWs. I'm looking to buy a 2000 5er, either a 540 or a 530, both with a manual transmission and the sport package. So the questions i have are:
How significance is the difference in performance between the 3L v6 and the 4.4L v8.
I've also been told buy one of my local delaers that the 530 is much more reliable when it comes to the engine. is this true or just a load of bs? Also are they any significant worries/problems that others have had with this year 5er?

I appreciate any help in advance. Email me if you can answer any of this at ZepHead007@adelphia.net, and if you have one of these cars for sale, shoot me an email and we might be able to work something out. thanks
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There is a big difference between the v6 and v8.

The v8 is wayyyy better.

I'd try and find a 2000 540i with a 6-speed AND the Performance Package.

There is nothing better than the 540i, from what I've driven in the e39 series. And, I've driven EVERYTHING.

If you don't believe me...

Just go drive them, you'll definately find a difference.

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The prior post says it all
The 4.4 is AWESOME Heaps of torque at anywhere off idol and the acceleration is addictive.
I just made my purchase on a 98 540 a few weeks ago and can't say enough about the car.
I drove the 6 and there is no comparison. I've done more research than I care to recall and the 8 is every bit as reliable as the 6 IMOH.
Go for the 8; you won't be sorry!

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actually, from what i heard, the most reliable of the engines in the 5 is the 2.8 one, so i do'nt think there's much of a difference between 540 and 530. And lets face it, engines are freaking awesome, i think you'll have problems with electronics WAYYY before engine troubles. I think any of the engines can last for hundred of miles, but v8 got more potential, and manual transmition??? that should be a no brainer
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thanks guys, i didnt think there was much of a difference, even though and ind. delaer said the 6s are more reliable than the 8s, but who the hell cares when its horse power that im after.
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The 530 is a more reliable car overall and a very highly rated and recommended car by Consumers Reports.
But, personally, I'd go for the 540, just coz' it has more balls!

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Originally posted by zephead007@May 24 2005, 04:20 PM
thanks guys, i didnt think there was much of a difference, even though and ind. delaer said the 6s are more reliable than the 8s, but who the hell cares when its horse power that im after.
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More horse power?

Yes, go with the 540i (v8)....

but remember, not the sport package.....

the Performance Package* (with //M emblemb on wheels and on the steering wheel)....much much better.

*if you can find one...that is.

Good luck!
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Hmmm

As for cars, I'd have to say the 525 / 530 are better cars with tighter handling and feel. They Inline 6 (no v6) engines are also more reliable. As the v8 and the i6 age, the 6 will be noticeably smoother running.

The 540 feels a little more like a "boat" because of the added weight of the engine, different weight distribution and the recirculating ball steering unit. The 530 is an exceptionally well balanced car in that size class with the i6 and the rack and pinion steering system.

If it's horsepower your after, though - the 540 is the way to go. or of course - an m5. lol

I wasn't aware that the performance package was available on the 5er in 2000, though. but there is nothing wrong witht he sport package, its hot.

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Whats the difference between the sport package and the perofrmance package? eitherway, i was aiming for the performance package with all the added M symbols, but still, whats the difference?
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Ok, I was under the impression that the 540i had a performance package (with the //M on the wheels and on the steering wheel.)

But you are right, I must be driving the sports package. used

According to this.

The 540i Sport represents the latest effort from BMW M (the company's special performance division). For $8360 over the price of the standard 540i six-speed, BMW M adds a performance suspension system, larger front brake rotors, new wheels and tires, deeper front and rear spoilers, rocker panels, and special M badging.

I drove a 2002 540i today, he's getting 2 new tires.

Like this one.



I love driving this 540i! The best of the e39 5ers.
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The 540s are so torquey and powerful, but maaaan that is one heavy feeling car. I mean the 525, 528 and 530 have such a better feel with that rack and pinion steering system + better weight balance. Just for that, I'd live w/o the power.

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Originally posted by sp0rky@May 26 2005, 12:16 PM
The 540s are so torquey and powerful, but maaaan that is one heavy feeling car. I mean the 525, 528 and 530 have such a better feel with that rack and pinion steering system + better weight balance. Just for that, I'd live w/o the power.
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I've driven both a 2000 528 and a multiple 540's. I noticed very little difference in handling ability nor feel.

BTW, note there is no such thing as a 2000 530 (in the USA). Those didn't come out until 2001. Now the 2001 530 is a whole lot closer to a 1999 or 2000 540 than a 2000 528, powerwise, so just be careful as to what you are saying is "about the same".

Good luck finding the "performance package". However, all 6-speed 540s came with the Sport package, which in 1999 and 2000 included the M logo on the sport steering wheel and shifter, among other things.

My 2 cents is that the 6-cyl is more reliable and smoother, not really better handling, and doesn't offer much better mpg (if you're talking manual trans). The 540 is powerful, but frought with many things to fix or repair once you get North of 70K miles...

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Originally posted by Eric S.+May 26 2005, 07:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eric S. @ May 26 2005, 07:48 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-sp0rky@May 26 2005, 12:16 PM
The 540s are so torquey and powerful, but maaaan that is one heavy feeling car. I mean the 525, 528 and 530 have such a better feel with that rack and pinion steering system + better weight balance. Just for that, I'd live w/o the power.
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I've driven both a 2000 528 and a multiple 540's. I noticed very little difference in handling ability nor feel.

BTW, note there is no such thing as a 2000 530 (in the USA). Those didn't come out until 2001. Now the 2001 530 is a whole lot closer to a 1999 or 2000 540 than a 2000 528, powerwise, so just be careful as to what you are saying is "about the same".

Good luck finding the "performance package". However, all 6-speed 540s came with the Sport package, which in 1999 and 2000 included the M logo on the sport steering wheel and shifter, among other things.

My 2 cents is that the 6-cyl is more reliable and smoother, not really better handling, and doesn't offer much better mpg (if you're talking manual trans). The 540 is powerful, but frought with many things to fix or repair once you get North of 70K miles...
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Mine is a 540 with the M badges. The suspension is firm, corners are FUN! Get a radar detector, you will need one. If you like the 530 save yourself some money and don't drive a 540. That way you will not know what you are missing.

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Originally posted by rjr+May 27 2005, 04:52 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rjr @ May 27 2005, 04:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
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The 540s are so torquey and powerful, but maaaan that is one heavy feeling car. I mean the 525, 528 and 530 have such a better feel with that rack and pinion steering system + better weight balance. Just for that, I'd live w/o the power.
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I've driven both a 2000 528 and a multiple 540's. I noticed very little difference in handling ability nor feel.

BTW, note there is no such thing as a 2000 530 (in the USA). Those didn't come out until 2001. Now the 2001 530 is a whole lot closer to a 1999 or 2000 540 than a 2000 528, powerwise, so just be careful as to what you are saying is "about the same".

Good luck finding the "performance package". However, all 6-speed 540s came with the Sport package, which in 1999 and 2000 included the M logo on the sport steering wheel and shifter, among other things.

My 2 cents is that the 6-cyl is more reliable and smoother, not really better handling, and doesn't offer much better mpg (if you're talking manual trans). The 540 is powerful, but frought with many things to fix or repair once you get North of 70K miles...
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Mine is a 540 with the M badges. The suspension is firm, corners are FUN! Get a radar detector, you will need one. If you like the 530 save yourself some money and don't drive a 540. That way you will not know what you are missing.

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Couldn't have said it better myself!!

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Good luck finding the "performance package".* * However, all 6-speed 540s came with the Sport package, which in 1999 and 2000 included the M logo on the sport steering wheel and shifter, among other things.


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Yeah, thanks. I found out that the 540i have an only option of a Sport package. The same M wheels found on the e39 540i Sport package are also on the e38 740i Sport Package wheels.

Anywho
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