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Hi, as stupid as it sounds (and I'm not a wreckless driver at all) I was distracted making a turn and ran onto a center divider, hitting a small tree. Luckily, only the driver's side of the front bumper was smashed in from the bottom, and tore off the wheel well flap (is that what it's called?) on that side. Everything else is cosmetically intact (I don't think I would have done anything to the engine, would've I?). So I got my first estimate, and the guy at the shop says we have to replace the entire bumper and that's going to cost me about $1300. I also asked about the option of putting in an m5 front bumper, and he says that'll cost be about $2300. If those prices are fair, I don't mind spending an extra 1K for the m5 front, but that's going to mean at some point, I'd like to get the m5 rear bumper too...how much would I be looking at for that? Would there be anything else I'd have to get to complete the m5 look? I know I have a pretty whimpy trim (525) - so I'm not even sure if I want to spend that much money to get the "m5 look" if I can't do it right, and just be laughed at as a poseur.

This is my first beamer, not to mention my first car ever, so please advice!
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I've done the M5 bodky kit recently so my prices should be pretty close. The bumpers, both front and back from BMW will cost $1075. These come primed, and fit the body of your car perfectly. Add about $800 for paint and labor. I think whoever you've gone to is ripping you off. Replacing the font bumper and wheel guard shouldn't run more than $1000.

To get the full M5 look you'll have to buy
Bumpers - $1075
Fog lights - $200
Paint - $800+
Side trim (shadowline) ~$200
The rear exhaust cost me $75 by welding a pipe extension onto my muffler...

Look here for my whole step by step...

http://www.bimmerwerkz.com/forum/ind...howtopic=31608

In conclusion, talk to a BMW parts person at the dealer, they'll know exactly what parts you'll need...it's worth it, trust me...
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I've driven an e60 545i with the M5 body kit , it looks good.

Yeah, I think it was around $3600 total for the front bumper, side skirts, and rear bumper.

Yeah, I'd spend $1K more for the M5 body kit...you're going to spend $1300 anyway...why not spend a little bit more for a newer and better look.
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You did damage your bumper, so are you talking about just replacing the bumper COVER...or including the actual bumper underneath the cover?
That makes a lot of difference in price there...

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According to the estimate, I need a new bumper cover, as well as the left molding pieece, skirt (inner fender), spoiler (lower front) and shield (rear splash) - the parts and materials come to just about $600. And they're putting about 9 hours of labor in (includng paint and refinishing) totaling about $700 for labor. This is just to put in the original 525 bumper.

For the M5 front bumper, they're charging me $1500 just for parts and about $800 for labor (about 11 hours). Is Matt right? Am I being ripped off?

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You did damage your bumper, so are you talking about just replacing the bumper COVER...or including the actual bumper underneath the cover?
That makes a lot of difference in price there...
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Hey Matt, so when you added your M5 body kit, did you just replace the bumper covers or did you also have to replace everything that went inside/underneath the bumpers (like the splash shields, inner fender, skirt, etc...)? I think that's what they're charging me up the wazoo for - there's like 16 items totaling $1500 in just parts and like $800 in labor (see my reply to CosmosBlack below).

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I've done the M5 bodky kit recently so my prices should be pretty close. The bumpers, both front and back from BMW will cost $1075. These come primed, and fit the body of your car perfectly. Add about $800 for paint and labor. I think whoever you've gone to is ripping you off. Replacing the font bumper and wheel guard shouldn't run more than $1000.

To get the full M5 look you'll have to buy
Bumpers - $1075
Fog lights - $200
Paint - $800+
Side trim (shadowline) ~$200
The rear exhaust cost me $75 by welding a pipe extension onto my muffler...

Look here for my whole step by step...

http://www.bimmerwerkz.com/forum/ind...howtopic=31608

In conclusion, talk to a BMW parts person at the dealer, they'll know exactly what parts you'll need...it's worth it, trust me...
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I had to replace the cover, along with the bottom splash guard. But that was pretty much it... Some people have said that they needed to replace their air ducts (but with my 540 i didnt need to) so if you end up needing them I have a set that I'd be happy to send, as they're just taking up space in my garage...
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This was the guide I used to get me through the upgrade....many of the parts are unnecessary, like the bumper gasket...but take a look through this and check out bmwtips.com for more...

THE E39 M-TECH BUMPER CONVERSION- By BCM

I have done extensive research into the M-Tech modification and completed the job on my 1998 Arctic Silver 528i Sport. If you are considering this modification, know that doing good research is critical to getting this job done right. First, understand that some parts in this conversion will vary if you have a V8 or I6 BMW E39. Your local dealers computer will not always have correct data about the parts needed. The computer will say that cars from certain years are incompatible with some of the needed parts. BMW does offer a Retrofit M Aerodynamic kit, (Part number: 51-71-0-027-250), this kit includes the front and rear bumpers and many of the parts below, but there are additional V8 or I6 specific parts that are necessary to complete the job. Most importantly, you will need to get front wheel liners and F.L. brackets to hold the new lower engine cover and the bumper on. Some parts in the kit will be left over because it includes V8 and I6 parts.

A: The M5 front wheel liners (listed below, 989,990) do not have cut outs to allow air to reach brakes, but they can be cut out to work. The M-Tech liners listed next (899/832) are made to be used in this modification and have the cutouts. Both liners have an essential support piece that attaches to the bottom of the front bumper.

B: The aluminum F.L. (Fender Liner) brackets, also called screening, vary between the I6 and V8. They are critical to attaching the front engine cover (also called “engine belly pan”, “undercarriage”, or “screening”) to the vehicle and routing air back to the brakes.

C: The I6 uses a special fog light frame on the driver's side that allows air to be funneled back to the alternator. M5's and the 2003 540i Sports that I have seen do not use this system. The BMW retrofit kit includes both styles of driver's side fog light covers, just make sure not to neglect duct work that could over heat your alternator.

D: There are two styles of fog lights available. This is purely a cosmetic decision. The ones listed as “clear” are like those on 2003 540i Sports. The ones listed as “ribbed” are taken from the M5 parts list. The plugs on the M fog lights are different from your standard E39 and need to be spliced with the four new contacts and two plugs.

E: The M-Tech rear bumper is the same for 540/530/528/525. Parts listed are for a single side exhaust. There are a few choices for exhausts. You can modify your factory exhaust with a new tip (for around $150) or purchase a new OEM or after market exhaust. If you want the cosmetic appearance of a M5 quad exhaust there are a few aftermarket options out there (Eisenmann). A real M5 quad exhaust will require a different lower insert and major modifications to your undercarriage and spare tire well. M5 rear wheel liners are an option.

F: The M-tech grill mesh (280) is designed to connect to the ducts for the brakes. It has attachment points for the “T-grill” that snaps in the middle of the large air intake. Personal preference will decide if this is for you. The M5 grill mesh (285) can be modified to work by drilling holes in the mesh and using cable ties to hold the ducts on.

G: I'm not sure why there are different part numbers for the actual front bumper piece. Just make sure you order one that will be compatible with your PDC or headlight washers if you have those options. I got the 507-part number from the M5 parts list. I got the 377 with my kit and it did not have headlight washers. The BMW parts screen had a “M-PDC” notation next to the 377 in the computer. I guess it meant “minus PDC”. My car does not have PDC and the 377 bumper installed perfectly. Most people do the install with the 507. Also note that some hardware can be reused in the install.



M-TECH FRONT BUMPER PARTS LIST
51-11-2-498-507 Front Bumper ($454 retail) (M5) or use below
51-11-7-894-377 Front Bumper (no headlight washer/no PDC)
51-71-2-498-939 Front Air Duct $42.00
51-11-7-890-013 Air Duct Left $13.38
51-11-7-890-014 Air Duct Right $13.38
51-11-2-693-539 Front Tow Flap $6.12
51-11-2-494-193 Front Buffer Strip Left (Shadowline) @$11
51-11-2-494-194 Front Buffer Strip Right (Shadowline) @11
51-11-8-159-361 Support Left (Old one can be reused) $3.30
51-11-8-159-362 Support Right (Old one can be reused) $3.30
51-11-8-191-149 Gasket x2 (2125MM) $9.00
51-11-2-495-280 Black mesh grille w/ for T-grill and ducts $23.04
51-11-7-893-048 Web Center (commonly called T-Grill) $26.40
51-11-2-694-214 License plate frame (if required by your state)
61-13-0-007-272 Contact To Fog Lamp x4
61-13-8-364-498 Plug For Fog Lamp x2
63-17-2-228-613 Fog Lamp Left RIBBED LENS $71.00
63-17-2-228-614 Fog Lamp Right RIBBED LENS $71.00
63-17-7-894-017 Fog Lamp Left CLEAR LENS $71.00
63-17-7-894-018 Fog Lamp Right CLEAR LENS $71.00
(Some parts below vary if you have an I6 or V8)
51-11-2-695-761 Alternator Air Duct $19.02 (528/525/530)
51-11-2-695-762 Air Duct, Oil Cooler (540)
51-11-7-891-421 Fog Light Frame right w/Alternator cut out(528/530)
51-11-2-496-283 Fog Light Frame left (540/M5) $9.72
51-11-2-496-284 Fog Light Frame right (All) $9.72
51-71-2-498-989 Wheel liner/support Right (FOR M5) (no ducts)
51-71-2-498-990 Wheel liner/support Left (FOR M5) (no ducts)
51-71-2-694-899 Wheel liner/support Right (540/530/528/525)$60.80
51-71-2-694-832 Wheel liner/support Left (540/530/528/525)$60.80
51-71-7-892-297 F.L. metal bracket/support duct (540/M5) $60.36
51-71-7-892-298 F.L. metal bracket/support duct (540/M5) $60.36
51-71-7-892-295 F.L. metal bracket/support duct (530/528/525) $32
51-71-7-892-296 F.L. metal bracket/support duct (530/528/525) $32
51-71-2-498-988 Screening (540/M5) (front engine cover) $121.68
51-71-2-695-680 Front Engine Cover (525/528/530) $57.80



ASSORTED HARDWARE (SOME CAN BE REUSED)
51-11-2-498-507 Front Bumper ($454 retail) (M5) or use below
51-11-8-174-185 Expanding Rivet x30 Schwarz
51-41-8-201-057 Axial Securing Clip x10
51-11-8-242-250 Phillips Screws x2 TS 5x20
07-12-9-925-717 Body Nut x2
07-11-9-916-922 Hex Head Screw x11



M-TECH REAR BUMPER (Parts the same for I6 or V8)
51-12-2-498-505- Rear bumper panel $358.68
51-12-2-498-733- Rear Buffer Strip Left (Shadowline) $14.28
51-12-2-498-734- Rear Buffer Strip Right (Shadowline)$14.28
51-12-2-693-663- Rear Tow Flap $6.12
51-12-2-695-498- Insert for single side exhaust $48.60
51-11-1-970-389- Bracket ($3.84 each) x2 $7.68
51-12-8-211-436- Sliding Piece ($.12each) x2 $0.24



OTHER HARDWARE YOU MAY NEED
07-12-9-925-748 Nut (x2) 51-71-8-176-503 Clamp (x20)
07-11-9-916-966 Sheet Nut (x4) 51-71-8-218-852 Screw Plug (x2)
07-11-9-901-294 Hex head Screw (x20) 51-71-8-218-323 Screw Plug (x8)
07-12-9-925-731 Body Nut x(20) 51-71-8-229-003 Expanding Rivet (x12)
51-16-1-881-149 Expanding Rivet (x12) 51-71-8-195-383 Circlip (x12)



FYI if you hate the T-Grill and want M5 look
51-11-2-496-285 M5 mesh Grille (won't work with ducts unless modified)



M5 REAR WHEEL LINERS
51-71-2-496-657- Liner left ($55 retail approx) 51-71-2-496-658- Liner right ($55 retail approx)



M5 REAR LIP SPOILER
51-71-7-901-594- Rear lip spoiler $103.68 51-71-0-141-495- 3M adhesive tape $6.72



M5 CHROME GRILLE
51-13-2-497-261- M5 Grille left $24.78 51-13-2-497-262- M5 Grille right $24.78



I WAS TOLD MY LIST IS MISSING THE FOLLOWING
51-71-7-892-268 Right Filling Insert $5.75 51-71-7-892-267 Left Filling Insert $5.75
(I don't know what they are, and did not need them to finish)



M-AERODYNAMIC KIT has these, but you won't need them
51-11-7-891-931 Cover Left 51-11-7-891-932 Cover Right
(These block the air ducts for T-Grill installation on an M5)

SPECIAL THANKS: SS, SVTWEB, FOLSOM530, PJ, LEE AT MAGNUM COLLISION, COLIN AT GLOBAL IMPORTS BMW, AND THE ROADFLY E39 COMMUNITY.



While this list may look incredibly intimidating, print it out and high-light what you think you'll really need....the list looks a lot shorter....

Good luck,
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