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#1 (permalink) Old 06-24-2012, 07:53 PM
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Change Engine Oil with PennzOil OR change at Dealer?

Hi,
I was wondering which option is better:
Change Engine oil with PennzOil Syntech with 7500 Miles by 104$
OR
Change oil at dealer with 15000 miles by 160$ ?
Which one do you prefer best?
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I would go with the dealer. They use Mobile 1 at most dealers. I trust that oil more than i would trust the Pennz Oil.


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Do you change by yourself?

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I would go with the dealer. They use Mobile 1 at most dealers. I trust that oil more than i would trust the Pennz Oil.
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I would change myself. its fairly easy. you just want to make sure you loosen the filter before you drop the drain plug. otherwise the dirty oil in the filter housing will not be drained.


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Actually the OEM BMW brand is Castrol. Some oil caps state "BMW Recommends Castrol" on them.

I personally use Mobile 1 0w-40. I have a hard time finding German Castrol 0w-30 where i live. Mobile 1-0w-40 is the approved equivalent on the LL-01 list. Valvoline and Penzoil also have oils on the LL-01 approved list.

You will save a lot of money by doing the oil change by yourself and it is quite easy. A set of ramps costs about $50. Other then that you will need a 36mm socket for the oil filter housing which NAPA usually has for $10, and a 13-15 mm wrench for the drain plug. A filter at the dealership is about $16, but i get them online for $8. You can find deals of 6 filters for like $30-40 online.

I heave heard way to many horror stories of botched oil changes and been a "victim" of one myself. After looking at the reciept i realised they put in the wrong oil. This happened to me twice, on two seperate timess. When you do your own oil changes you know exactly what is going into your car and you know its being done right.


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Thanks and sorry for the duplicate post.
How many miles do you go with Mobil 1. 0W-40?
I heard that 0W-xx is good for the new cars like 2012-2010 and for older ones like mine 2004 it is better to use the 5W-30. Is it right?


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Actually the OEM BMW brand is Castrol. Some oil caps state "BMW Recommends Castrol" on them.

I personally use Mobile 1 0w-40. I have a hard time finding German Castrol 0w-30 where i live. Mobile 1-0w-40 is the approved equivalent on the LL-01 list. Valvoline and Penzoil also have oils on the LL-01 approved list.

You will save a lot of money by doing the oil change by yourself and it is quite easy. A set of ramps costs about $50. Other then that you will need a 36mm socket for the oil filter housing which NAPA usually has for $10, and a 13-15 mm wrench for the drain plug. A filter at the dealership is about $16, but i get them online for $8. You can find deals of 6 filters for like $30-40 online.

I heave heard way to many horror stories of botched oil changes and been a "victim" of one myself. After looking at the reciept i realised they put in the wrong oil. This happened to me twice, on two seperate timess. When you do your own oil changes you know exactly what is going into your car and you know its being done right.

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Thanks and sorry for the duplicate post.
How many miles do you go with Mobil 1. 0W-40?
I heard that 0W-xx is good for the new cars like 2012-2010 and for older ones like mine 2004 it is better to use the 5W-30. Is it right?
Mobile 1 is a top quality synthetic oil and can be run 10,000-15,000 miles. However, this will require a filter change halfway through. I have run one change to 15,000 miles, but usually no more then 10,000. The rule of thumb is once you can no longer see through the oil then you need to change it. I always check it at the 5k, just to make sure.

The BMW LL-01 specification is current for your year and model. The reason 0w-40 is recommended is because its a thinner 40 weight oil and it behaves more like a 30 weight oil. I would run German Castrol 0w-30 but i have a very hard time finding it here locally and prefer not to have to order it. Some people run Mobile 1 5w-40 with good results as well.


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Thanks for your response. Great I will go head and buy Mobil 1 0W-40. Do I need to buy a Mobil 1 filter too or I can get other brands as well??
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Mobile 1 is a top quality synthetic oil and can be run 10,000-15,000 miles. However, this will require a filter change halfway through. I have run one change to 15,000 miles, but usually no more then 10,000. The rule of thumb is once you can no longer see through the oil then you need to change it. I always check it at the 5k, just to make sure.

The BMW LL-01 specification is current for your year and model. The reason 0w-40 is recommended is because its a thinner 40 weight oil and it behaves more like a 30 weight oil. I would run German Castrol 0w-30 but i have a very hard time finding it here locally and prefer not to have to order it. Some people run Mobile 1 5w-40 with good results as well.
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I believe Mobile 1 makes a filter, but I personally have always used OEM filters. Mann Or Meyle are the common ones. I get them for $8 online or $15 in person at the dealership.


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You better change the oil at dealer. That will be the best idea for you.

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Mobile 1 is a top quality synthetic oil and can be run 10,000-15,000 miles. However, this will require a filter change halfway through. I have run one change to 15,000 miles, but usually no more then 10,000. The rule of thumb is once you can no longer see through the oil then you need to change it. I always check it at the 5k, just to make sure.

The BMW LL-01 specification is current for your year and model. The reason 0w-40 is recommended is because its a thinner 40 weight oil and it behaves more like a 30 weight oil. I would run German Castrol 0w-30 but i have a very hard time finding it here locally and prefer not to have to order it. Some people run Mobile 1 5w-40 with good results as well.
I also use M1 0W40. It is a nice "light 40" with an acceptable HTHS viscosity if you like to push your engine hard. But I always caution people that engine oil doesn't age by the mile, but rather the operating hour.

Someone who averages 60mph in highway driving will operate the engine for 166 hours to go 10,000 miles.

Another person who lives just outside NYC and commutes to work averaging 10mph will operate the engine for 1000 hours to go the same 10,000 miles.

I am a firm believer that after 300 hours of operation the additives in many oils can be used up. Modern multi-viscosity oils are so good because of the additives. Once the additives are used up the oil characteristics change dramatically for the bad.

I think the visual "see through the oil" has too much variance and can't tell much about the percentage of additive levels left in the oil compared to when it was new (called the Total Base Number). If you are curious, the next time you change your oil send a sample in to Blackstone for analysis. You will know if you need to shorten or can even lengthen your drain intervals.
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Anyways.... avoid the stealership at all costs (unless your car is under warranty). You will PAY x10 more for everything.

Here is a website totally dedicated to the topics of vehicle lubricants.

Incredible resource with extremely informative forums !

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