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Last night my inner door handle broke and I saw that it was made of cheap plastic. Well today I thought I maybe I could get in that door from outside the car, not able to because the outside metal door handle snapped off too. Two handles in two days and $225.00 later. BMW cuts corners in some of their part selections. Needed to vent.

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Interesting and very sad to see it happening but note the following:
A. True most door handles are made out of plastic-of course not all.
B. It does not take much of an effort (in terms of spring resistance mechanism) to open BMW doors. As such these door handles tend to last for a quite long time-under normal and gentle pulls.
C. Unless there is a jamming problem in closing/opening the door and/or the springs in the handle itself which requires a harder pull (you may not feel it when you open your doors) doors do open with ease. BMW handles don't require a long travelling distance to open the door!!!
D. Many people when in a hurry get too excited and don't notice/feel how hard they pull back on these little poor plastic pieces while pushing the doors out to open-I confess I am one of those guys- therefore I do subject them to tremendous/unnecassary pressure leading to their ultimate destruction. All what you've to do is ask me how many times I've changed them.

P.S. As you can see while I am trying to vent it too; I am blaming ME!!
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Know your pain man! I had the drivers door inside one go a couple of weeks back - simply took the rear one off and put it in the front (at least that is a godsend) - Haven't really thought about it since, but I guess I will have to replace it one day (she is my baby after all).



PS looking through the service/repair reoords of my car from new she has had 3 new inside drivers door handles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! since 98 - 4 including the bodge I have one although they aren't plastic, just a poor quality alloy.
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I haven't yet had a handle break, but MY big beef about the inside door handles are that you practically have to be a frappin' contortionist to bend your hand back far enough to grasp the handle and open the door to get out. Why is that?!? The handle ought to be located about 5 to 8 inches farther forward and about 3 to 5 inches higher.

Not saying that's a clear spot on the door panel with the current design, it's just that's where I feel it should be. And I don't exactly have gorilla arms, although my arm span is 77" (and I'm just over 6 feet tall). All I can say is that I never had that problem with any Honda I've ever owned (admittedly, no Honda I've ever owned had 282 HP and 324 lb-ft either)...

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I haven't yet had a handle break, but MY big beef about the inside door handles are that you practically have to be a frappin' contortionist to bend your hand back far enough to grasp the handle and open the door to get out.* * ** Why is that?!?* The handle ought to be located about 5 to 8 inches farther forward and about 3 to 5 inches higher.*

Not saying that's a clear spot on the door panel with the current design, it's just that's where I feel it should be.* And I don't exactly have gorilla arms, although my arm span is 77" (and I'm just over 6 feet tall).* All I can say is that I never had that problem with any Honda I've ever owned (admittedly, no Honda I've ever owned had 282 HP and 324 lb-ft either)...
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Check your math! there is no way you have 77" arm span it is impossible. I mean it
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Oh yeah Bill, middle finger tip to middle finger tip, with arms spread wide open (includes across shoulders). Picture in your mind the famous Leonardo DaVinci drawing. Anyway, for most people that measurement is about the same as their height (as DaVinci depicted). For me, at about 72" in height, my arms are a tad long considering my span is 77". I can assure it it isn't broad shoulders or anything like that, as I weigh only about 195lbs...

Obviously, each individual arm is much shorter, and I bet that's what you were probably thinking about...

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Oh yeah Bill, middle finger tip to middle finger tip, with arms spread wide open (includes across shoulders). Picture in your mind the famous Leonardo DaVinci drawing. Anyway, for most people that measurement is about the same as their height (as DaVinci depicted). For me, at about 72" in height, my arms are a tad long considering my span is 77". I can assure it it isn't broad shoulders or anything like that, as I weigh only about 195lbs...

Obviously, each individual arm is much shorter, and I bet that's what you were probably thinking about...
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Alright without changing this into anatomy forum: you're 6' tall your arm span (middle finger to middle finger tip should measure 6'=72" EXACT not 77". Probably the only exception to this is BeelZ's; he has different specs
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Originally posted by billB+Jan 15 2005, 03:34 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(billB @ Jan 15 2005, 03:34 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Eric S.@Jan 15 2005, 03:18 AM
Oh yeah Bill, middle finger tip to middle finger tip, with arms spread wide open (includes across shoulders). Picture in your mind the famous Leonardo DaVinci drawing. Anyway, for most people that measurement is about the same as their height (as DaVinci depicted). For me, at about 72" in height, my arms are a tad long considering my span is 77". I can assure it it isn't broad shoulders or anything like that, as I weigh only about 195lbs...

Obviously, each individual arm is much shorter, and I bet that's what you were probably thinking about...
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Alright without changing this into anatomy forum: you're 6' tall your arm span (middle finger to middle finger tip should measure 6'=72" EXACT not 77". Probably the only exception to this is BeelZ's; he has different specs
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Don't quite know what you mean by that but I am 6'3" and 20stone (not all fat) - Does this count ?
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Oh yeah Bill, middle finger tip to middle finger tip, with arms spread wide open (includes across shoulders).* Picture in your mind the famous Leonardo DaVinci drawing.* Anyway, for most people that measurement is about the same as their height (as DaVinci depicted).* For me, at about 72" in height, my arms are a tad long considering my span is 77".* I can assure it it isn't broad shoulders or anything like that, as I weigh only about 195lbs...

Obviously, each individual arm is much shorter, and I bet that's what you were probably thinking about...
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Alright without changing this into anatomy forum: you're 6' tall your arm span (middle finger to middle finger tip should measure 6'=72" EXACT not 77". Probably the only exception to this is BeelZ's; he has different specs
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Don't quite know what you mean by that but I am 6'3" and 20stone (not all fat) - Does this count ?
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that is what I mean: at 6'3" your arm span is 75", for me at 6'1" it is arm span of 73"
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Originally posted by billB+Jan 14 2005, 10:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(billB @ Jan 14 2005, 10:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Eric S.@Jan 15 2005, 03:18 AM
Oh yeah Bill, middle finger tip to middle finger tip, with arms spread wide open (includes across shoulders).* Picture in your mind the famous Leonardo DaVinci drawing.* Anyway, for most people that measurement is about the same as their height (as DaVinci depicted).* For me, at about 72" in height, my arms are a tad long considering my span is 77".* I can assure it it isn't broad shoulders or anything like that, as I weigh only about 195lbs...

Obviously, each individual arm is much shorter, and I bet that's what you were probably thinking about...
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Alright without changing this into anatomy forum: you're 6' tall your arm span (middle finger to middle finger tip should measure 6'=72" EXACT not 77". Probably the only exception to this is BeelZ's; he has different specs
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Sorry Bill, the tale of the tape doesn't lie. While in college my roommate & I (same height and both engineers) painstakingly measured each other's span by marking with a pencil where our middle finger tips touched on a wall, and then going back and measuring. His span came out to 72-1/2" inches, mine was 77".

It's not all that uncommon. Check it out with NBA players. Example: Tayshaun Prince, who is 6'-9", but with a much longer arm span. Some quotes grabbed just now regarding a Piston/Lakers game:
"At 6-9 and with the arm span of a 7-footer, Prince has posed all sorts of problems for Bryant"..."Thanks to his length, Prince can contest a jump shot while playing about a half step off Bryant, making it more difficult for Bryant to drive by"...""I've never played against somebody that long before," said Bryant, who at 6-6 normally has a size advantage over the player guarding him. "He does a good job of utilizing his length."

Not saying I'm Tayshaun or NBA material, and my arms aren't THAT ridiculous, but I'll stand behind the accuracy of my 77".

Thanks for the fodder, though, this has been a fun evening on this forum!

Now, what was the original subject again? used

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Oh yeah Bill, middle finger tip to middle finger tip, with arms spread wide open (includes across shoulders). Picture in your mind the famous Leonardo DaVinci drawing. Anyway, for most people that measurement is about the same as their height (as DaVinci depicted). For me, at about 72" in height, my arms are a tad long considering my span is 77". I can assure it it isn't broad shoulders or anything like that, as I weigh only about 195lbs...

Obviously, each individual arm is much shorter, and I bet that's what you were probably thinking about...
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Alright without changing this into anatomy forum: you're 6' tall your arm span (middle finger to middle finger tip should measure 6'=72" EXACT not 77". Probably the only exception to this is BeelZ's; he has different specs
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Sorry Bill, the tale of the tape doesn't lie. While in college my roommate & I (same height and both engineers) painstakingly measured each other's span by marking with a pencil where our middle finger tips touched on a wall, and then going back and measuring. His span came out to 72-1/2" inches, mine was 77".

It's not all that uncommon. Check it out with NBA players. Example: Tayshaun Prince, who is 6'-9", but with a much longer arm span. Some quotes grabbed just now regarding a Piston/Lakers game:
"At 6-9 and with the arm span of a 7-footer, Prince has posed all sorts of problems for Bryant"..."Thanks to his length, Prince can contest a jump shot while playing about a half step off Bryant, making it more difficult for Bryant to drive by"...""I've never played against somebody that long before," said Bryant, who at 6-6 normally has a size advantage over the player guarding him. "He does a good job of utilizing his length."

Not saying I'm Tayshaun or NBA material, and my arms aren't THAT ridiculous, but I'll stand behind the accuracy of my 77".

Thanks for the fodder, though, this has been a fun evening on this forum!

Now, what was the original subject again? used
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so much for door handles
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With all due respect my friend ...
College - roommates - measuring tape - engineers ... somethings not adding up - in fact, it just plain stinks.

I think you forgot something very important to your case ...BEER.

Now, I would never call you a liar - I know you're a good guy.

But sometimes, especially in college, the "goggles" can skew our vision, especially when we're seeing those 2:00 A.M. beauty contestants at the bar, that we must take back to our dorm - only to wake up the next morning wondering - WHAT THE $*%#) did I do last night.

For goodness sakes, we're talking about a tape measure here and possibly drunk college guys performing the task. (measuring - OK - that one's going to get blasted (performing the task)). This also assumes you have your back to them while they are measuring. (Don't even go there guys)

Again, I'm not saying that you are not telling the truth here. But maybe the boys gave you some misinformation. Is it not possible for an engineer, especially one in training, could have made a mistake? Maybe? Skewed numbers have been known to crop up every once in a while. HEHEHHEHEHEHEHE

Please forgive me, it's late and I've worked my backside off all week and I just needed to laugh a little. I know I can always count on you guys to crack me up ... especially after a long week.

Have a great weekend everyone. I have missed being here the past couple of weeks.

"goodness sakes" -- Gotta love that TN "hillbilly" grammer.

Oh Bill - Thanks for the nice compliments on the sticky post (iPod Write-Up). I have the word doc. I could forward if you feel it needs to be cleaned up. I've just not had the time lately.

Oh and to keep it on topic - doorhandles.

Jim

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Sorry guys, but the arm span measurement Event was taken very seriously and no beer was involved. My roommate & I were very competitive in basketball and running and made quite a science out of such endeavors. Looking back on it, I see nothing wrong with how we did it.

Tell you what, at the risk of being taken out of context, I'll have my wife "measure me" here, today, in our home, no beer involved whatsoever, using my genuine HQ tape measure and laser level.

Meanwhile, BMW door handles still suck, but the rest of the car is pretty good... :P

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Sorry guys, but the arm span measurement Event was taken very seriously and no beer was involved. My roommate & I were very competitive in basketball and running and made quite a science out of such endeavors. Looking back on it, I see nothing wrong with how we did it.

Tell you what, at the risk of being taken out of context, I'll have my wife "measure me" here, today, in our home, no beer involved whatsoever, using my genuine HQ tape measure and laser level.

Meanwhile, BMW door handles still suck, but the rest of the car is pretty good... :P
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