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Got a 2005 E60 545 with Bluetooth. Don't have a compatible Bluetooth phone but will get one shortly. Can anyone tell me what exactly happens when you get in your car with a compatible phone. I know it forms a partnership but, after that, do you use the iDrive Comm feature? Can you speak via the mic in the overhead? Does Bluetooth use the auidio system?

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search teh audio/electronics forum, i believe they explained it very well somewhere in there.

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The Bluetooth phone option is just great! I'll describe the good and bad points:

Good Points:

1. Atfer pairing the phone with the car (simply process) the car automatically establishes a link whenever the phone is brought inside.

2. The phone book entries in your phone are transferred to iDrive.

3. You speak into the microphone located on the ceiling of the car, the same one used for voice commands.

4. The other party's voice plays through the car's speakers. The sound quality both ways is exceptionally good.

5. YOU CAN USE VOICE COMMAND TO MAKE A CALL BY SPEAKING THE PERSON'S NAME!! Yes, without any training, you can simply press the voice command button on the steering wheel and say, "Call John Doe," and voila, the deed is done! You can also speak out the phone number by selecting the Dial command on iDrive.

6. You can use a dialpad on iDrive to enter the digits 0-9 and the # and * buttons. Hence, you can leave the phone tucked away in your briefcase or jacket.

7. When a call is in progress, electrical power will remain on even if you turn off the ignition. I'm not sure what will happen if you subsequently pull out the key...haven't tried that.


Bad Points:

1. Your phone eats up battery when Bluetooth is on. Get a charger for the car...you WILL need it. Eventually BMW is expected to release "cradles" for various makes of phones that will fit inside the center console and not only charge the battery, but connect the phone's antenna to the sharkfin located on the roof for better reception and less interference with the car's electronics.
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Thanks for the comprehensive response. I'm getting ready to replace my aging Motorola StarTac with a V600 which is compatible with the BMW.
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I've tested the Motorola V600 and V551 successfully. I would be careful with the Motorola MPx220 based on Windows Mobile OS. Although the phone is superb, with considerably better battery life and far superior voice recognition, its Bluetooth implementation is by Microsoft (I believe) rather than Motorola. I had a number of problems with this phone before exchanging it for the considerably less-powerful V551 (which is $$$ cheaper).
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Can someone list the configuration steps to get a Bluetooth phone (Motorola v551) to pair with a BMW bluetooth capable car (BWM 525i with i-Drive)?
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Yup, sure:

I. On your BMW, do this first:

1. Turn key to ignition position 2.
2. Select the Information/Service Menu from iDrive (press the Menu button and push down on the iDrive controller).
3. Select "Communication Settings".
4. Select the Bluetooth submenu; there should be two choices, one to enable/disable Bluetooth and the other to Select Bluetooth Devices. First enable Bluetooth then go to the Select Bluetooth Devices submenu (NOTE: The menu titles may be different; I'm writing this from memory while on a business trip.)
5. You should now see a message on iDrive as follows:

Bluetooth Discoverable in this Menu

6. The car is now searching for Bluetooth devices.

II. On your V551, do the following:

1. Locate the Bluetooth setup menu as follows:

Go to the "Settings" Menu, then to the "Connection" submenu, then
choose "Bluetooth Link" then choose the "Setup" menu item (item 3),
then turn the bluetooth power on (subitem 2), then choose "Find Me"
(subitem 1).

2. Now your V551 can be discovered by your BMW. Wait a few seconds for the car to find your phone. Carefully observe the iDrive screen AND the phone's display for further instructions.

III. Car and Phone

1. Either the phone or the car will ask for a Passkey. Enter any number and remember that number. If the car asked for the number, the phone will ask you to enter that same number, and vice-versa. Once you have entered the passkey on both devices, they are "paired" and you are just about done.

2. The car and the phone will ask you to verify that you want to pair each other. Select yes on both devices.

IV. Car

1. Once you have replied to all prompts and messages on both the car and the phone, turn the car's key to the full off position. Wait a couple of second and turn the ignition back to position 2.

2. Press the car's Menu button and slide the iDrive controller forwards to choose "Communications". Make sure the V551 phone is on. Wait a few moments. The car and phone will connect and your address book will transfer to iDrive.

That's it. If you have any problems, let me know or better yet, contact your BMW dealer who can give you a printed procedure.
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Hey ksz, I finally got a Motorola V600 and have successfully paired it up with the Bluetooth in my 5-Series. Works great just like you said it would. At first I couldn't get it to pair so I went back to the T-Mobile dealer but everything I said must have been coming out in Italian because the T-Mobile guy was clueless. So, I went back to the BMW dealer and he got the car to 'see' the phone but couldn't figure out the passkey. So, I shooed him and his accomplice out of the car so I could work on it in private and finally figured it out and it paired up fine. Very proud I out-geeked all of them.

My only gripe (and it's not a big deal) is that you have to pair the phone up everytime you get in the car even if you just leave it for a few minutes. I did create a shortcut on the V600 that cut the number of steps by half so it's not a big deal.

Interesting that voice command on the V600 is speaker dependant and you have to 'train' the phone for each name. But the BMW is not and it figures out the pronuciation on it's own. I also like the hollow, robotic voice that sounds like it's right out of some 1950's B-Grade sci fi film. Cool
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be careful with bluetooth as virus's are showing up in the cars brain.


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Glad it works well. However, you should not have to re-pair the phone each time. Pairing implies that you are re-entering the passkey each time; this should not be necessary. Once the passkey is set on both the car and phone, the two should establish a link automatically each and every time.

To conserve battery power, I always turn off the phone's Bluetooth. Whenever I'm leaving the office or leaving home to jump into the car, I turn Bluetooth back on. Like you, I've set a shortcut on my phone's Home Screen that lets me enable and disable this quickly. However, the passkey is never re-requested and once the phone's Bluetooth is turned on, the car automatically pairs with the phone.
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