5401vs95m3vs95etc

[jspit23]

sorry guy's to be asking so many questions but i have a bet with two of my friends. I have a 98 540i auto and my two other friends have a 95 caddilac etc bare stock and the other a 95 m3 manual stock. From a dead stop who would win in a quarter mile race?

[BeelZibub]

m3 without a doubt

[Johnathan_Hess]

A 1998 BMW 540i should run a quarter in 14.6.

A 1995 BMW M3 manual should run a quarter in 14.6.

A 1995 Cadillac ETC should run a quarter in 14.8.

These are all moderate estimates, but it shows that a 540i auto should keep up with the other two cars.

Now a MANUAL runs a flat 14.0 quarter mile.

[Torque]

manual 540 will out accelerate the M3... auto will be somewhere close.

as far as handling goes it's all m3, with 540 following in close second.... cadillac has no chance there.

[Johnathan_Hess]

Man, the 5-series rules.

[jspit23]

Originally posted by Johnathan_Hess@Dec 10 2004, 05:56 PM
A 1998 BMW 540i should run a quarter in 14.6.

A 1995 BMW M3 manual should run a quarter in 14.6.

A 1995 Cadillac ETC should run a quarter in 14.8.

These are all moderate estimates, but it shows that a 540i auto should keep up with the other two cars.

Now a MANUAL runs a flat 14.0 quarter mile.

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now what about 0-60, and what if the 540i had an intake and turner motorsport chip? thanks for the info, i truely appreciate it

[Johnathan_Hess]

Intake doesn't do much, from what I hear. The 540 already has a great setup to begin with, so anything else will provide minimal gain at best.

But a chip is your best bang for the buck. Roughly 20 horsepower -- the general claim -- and it raises your redline so you can wind the gear out longer.

But your BEST bet for better acceleration from 0-60, is a better differentials. 540s come stock with a 2.8x differential, I believe... really sacrificing acceleration for top end. The 540's more of a cruising land yacht at highway speeds.

Throw in a better differential, say 3.15, 3.64, or go CRAZY and get a 4.10, and you'll jump off the line, manhandling both cars.

The only downside is you're sacrficing theoretical top-end, and gas mileage.

Get a used, limited-slip differential. Best bet.

[Torque]

1997 BMW 540i 6.2 14.6
1995 BMW M3 6.2 14.6
1995 Cadillac ETC 6.6 14.8

540i and M3 are equa if manual... it's all up to the driver. i am assuming that a chipped auto 540 will be about equal or faster than a stock m3.

[jspit23]

Originally posted by Johnathan_Hess@Dec 10 2004, 06:10 PM
Intake doesn't do much, from what I hear. The 540 already has a great setup to begin with, so anything else will provide minimal gain at best.

But a chip is your best bang for the buck. Roughly 20 horsepower -- the general claim -- and it raises your redline so you can wind the gear out longer.

But your BEST bet for better acceleration from 0-60, is a better differentials. 540s come stock with a 2.8x differential, I believe... really sacrificing acceleration for top end. The 540's more of a cruising land yacht at highway speeds.

Throw in a better differential, say 3.15, 3.64, or go CRAZY and get a 4.10, and you'll jump off the line, manhandling both cars.

The only downside is you're sacrficing theoretical top-end, and gas mileage.

Get a used, limited-slip differential. Best bet.

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so with a chip and intake you dont think the 540 would win a 0-60 race?

[BeelZibub]

Originally posted by Torque@Dec 11 2004, 01:04 AM
manual 540 will out accelerate the M3... auto will be somewhere close.

as far as handling goes it's all m3, with 540 following in close second.... cadillac has no chance there.

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NO NO NO the m3 is much quicker - the site I will use to prove is down for maintenance at present but I will post 0-60 for all tomorrow. From memory 540i is around 6.2 secs 0-60 old M3 is a little over 5 secs 0-60.

[Johnathan_Hess]

A 1995 BMW M3 and a 540i manual would be very close in a 0-60 race.

If you chip your auto, I think you could hang with it in the quarter, and pull on the thing at highway speeds.

A '95 M3 isn't terribly fast stock -- they're not exactly redlight monsters.

[jspit23]

Originally posted by BeelZibub+Dec 10 2004, 06:16 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BeelZibub @ Dec 10 2004, 06:16 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Torque@Dec 11 2004, 01:04 AM
manual 540 will out accelerate the M3... auto will be somewhere close.

as far as handling goes it's all m3, with 540 following in close second.... cadillac has no chance there.

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NO NO NO the m3 is much quicker - the site I will use to prove is down for maintenance at present but I will post 0-60 for all tomorrow. From memory 540i is around 6.2 secs 0-60 old M3 is a little over 5 secs 0-60.

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wow really a 95 m3 0-60 is a high 5, i didnt think it was that fast. do you think adding an exhaust from the cat back, not the header would make a difference, thanks for all of the replies.

[BeelZibub]

I've just realised you are talking the crappy restricted american m3's aren't you? - of course until the latest reincarnation you have'nt had the full powered m3's at all have you. This makes a bit of a difference as all my quotes will be EURO spec cars.

[Johnathan_Hess]

...yeah.

In America, you'd beat the m3 off the line.

[BeelZibub]

In the UK you'd need an M5 TO BEAT AN m3 OFF THE LINE.