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Old 08-11-2005, 03:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I did 5,000 miles since I bought my car one year ago and yesterday I went to a BMW dealer. They just told me to go back home. Argh, I was hoping to hear them say 'alright, it's been a year, time for oil change'. Instead they told me to follow the computer advice and wait for 10,000 miles more. With my mileage, that's 2 more years, for crying out loud!

But I think I'm gonna follow their advice and probably be the first guy on the planet to do so. BMW should know. And I have yet to read a burnt-engine complaint on BMW boards regarding this issue.

Oil change every three years! It sounds so terrifying, doesn't it?
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This is all completely wrong i'm pretty sure that in your maintenance manual it states to change the oils every 15000 miles (which is crap) or every 12 months. check into that one, don't let a bad dealer damage your engine. and the 15000 mile service crap, thats for bmw to save money on full coverage maintenance vehicle. at least get your oil changed every 5000 miles and rotate the tires at ths tiem also. tire rotations will save you money in the long run.
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This is all completely wrong i'm pretty sure that in your maintenance manual it states to change the oils every 15000 miles (which is crap) or every 12 months. check into that one, don't let a bad dealer damage your engine. and the 15000 mile service crap, thats for bmw to save money on full coverage maintenance vehicle. at least get your oil changed every 5000 miles and rotate the tires at ths tiem also. tire rotations will save you money in the long run.
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You are really something mr. bmw tech. ,actually BMW do not recommend to rotate tire - moron! ( if you do not belive me, read original bmw manual!!!)
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Monkey say monley do. I rotate my tires because I know it's good for the car, regardless of what the manual says.
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Monkey say monley do. I rotate my tires because I know it's good for the car, regardless of what the manual says.
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The tread wear patterns at the front end differ from those at the rear- the actual patterns will vary according to individual driving condition. In the interests of safety and maintaining optimal handling characteristic , tire rotation is not recomended.
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Okay first of all for the poster:

Only 5000 miles a year...??? wow looks like you dont use it a lot. So judging from that if your usage isnt that much maybe you dont ACTUALLY need to change the oil so quickly. The oil change is not only dependent on mileage but also the way your car has been used. Personally I and many bimmer owners I know will do it every 5000 miles. the Dealer cannot refuse you if youre adamant. Say you want it....you will get it. Lets get to the bottom line changing your oil at shorter intervals will most definitely not hurt your car.


Now for this guy ZIBBY:
Hey Zibs chill dude...no need to call anybody moron. Probably you are the biggest one around here. Everybody has a right to offer his/her opinion here......so unless youre Chris Bangle (in which case you ARE a moron)......just keep the judgement to yourself and just offer your advice nuthing else.


Rotating the tires was recommened to me by my dealer every 10,000 miles and yes he mentioned that the manual doesnt say so. Yet he advises all his customers to rotate the tires. OF COURSE that is if your tread wear is aprroximately the same for both sets.....you dont wanna be running bald tires either ways.

My 0.02$......regarding oil change do it at 5-7K......dont wait for 15K.....not good.
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Okay first of all for the poster:

Only 5000 miles a year...??? wow looks like you dont use it a lot. So judging from that if your usage isnt that much maybe you dont ACTUALLY need to change the oil so quickly. The oil change is not only dependent on mileage but also the way your car has been used. Personally I and many bimmer owners I know will do it every 5000 miles. the Dealer cannot refuse you if youre adamant. Say you want it....you will get it. Lets get to the bottom line changing your oil at shorter intervals will most definitely not hurt your car.


Now for this guy ZIBBY:
Hey Zibs chill dude...no need to call anybody moron. Probably you are the biggest one around here. Everybody has a right to offer his/her opinion here......so unless youre Chris Bangle (in which case you ARE a moron)......just keep the judgement to yourself and just offer your advice nuthing else.


Rotating the tires was recommened to me by my dealer every 10,000 miles and yes he mentioned that the manual doesnt say so. Yet he advises all his customers to rotate the tires. OF COURSE that is if your tread wear is aprroximately the same for both sets.....you dont wanna be running bald tires either ways.

My 0.02$......regarding oil change do it at 5-7K......dont wait for 15K.....not good.
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Sure your dealer advised you, to do so ,because he wants your money.Regarding a moron if you read this forum carefuly ,you would notice ,he called me dumbass first, before I got a rant at him!
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So if I go to the dealership and ask them to change my oil because I want it done they have to comply. Will it be done under warranty or will I have to pay to have it done? For the first time I waited for the service light to come on as they recommended, but I drive the car hard (need to stop now with the insane gas prices, $3.00 a gallon before New Years) and prob need to change my oil sooner.
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So if I go to the dealership and ask them to change my oil because I want it done they have to comply. Will it be done under warranty or will I have to pay to have it done? For the first time I waited for the service light to come on as they recommended, but I drive the car hard (need to stop now with the insane gas prices, $3.00 a gallon before New Years) and prob need to change my oil sooner.
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Warranty will pay for your oil change if your car reaches 15,000 mile interval. If you want to change the oil before that, you have to pay. I just have my local shop do the oil change at 5,000, 10,000, then I go the dealer for 15,000 mile marks. The local shop or dealer can reset the service light for older cars but cannot reset the back rolling mile on the gauges (my car is 200 325i)
BTW, how's your angel eyes? Did you go to dealer and turn the DDL off? My car still have DDL on and I don't think I like it.
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So if I go to the dealership and ask them to change my oil because I want it done they have to comply. Will it be done under warranty or will I have to pay to have it done? For the first time I waited for the service light to come on as they recommended, but I drive the car hard (need to stop now with the insane gas prices, $3.00 a gallon before New Years) and prob need to change my oil sooner.
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well id hope most of you drive the hell out of your cars in the same ways i do because thats what a bmw is for! and if you do drive it in such ways, you DEFINATELY need to change the oil before 15000 miles. i change mine every 3000 but then again my car is 20 years old.
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I love my new angel eyes. They look awesome. I recommend you go ahead and go to the dealer to have them deactivated. I dont know though, they might look fine with the DDL on. But if you do go to the dealership, deactivating the lights is not covered under warranty. They were going to charge me $30 for 30 minutes of programming time or something. However, I said that when I made the appointment the guy i spoke to told me that everything is covered under warranty and that is should only take 15 minutes. I was pissed when they called me back to tell me that I have to pay, but in the end they dropped the charges due to the confusion. If you do it, then request a loaner when you make the appointment. I forgot to do that and they kept my car all day. I also get to pick up the strip of black molding for the license plate delete from the dealership today. I guess I need find a reputable oil shop and get my oil changed in about 5,000 miles.
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AIO,

Advise your dealer to refer to Service Information Bulletin # 00 04 01. This bulletin describes the procedure for what is called the "low mileage oil service." Owners such as yourself who drive fewer miles than most are still entitled to 1 annual oil service (free of charge) The dealership should do an oil and filter change only, no microfilter and NOT reset the service lamps. Continue to let the service countdown run until the oil service light comes on and at this time bring it in again for the full oil service inc. microfilter replacement. This full oil service is once again covered under warranty even if it comes 1 month later it doesnt matter. All the info is in the bulletin # i posted which the dealer has access to.

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I love my new angel eyes. They look awesome. I recommend you go ahead and go to the dealer to have them deactivated. I dont know though, they might look fine with the DDL on. But if you do go to the dealership, deactivating the lights is not covered under warranty. They were going to charge me $30 for 30 minutes of programming time or something. However, I said that when I made the appointment the guy i spoke to told me that everything is covered under warranty and that is should only take 15 minutes. I was pissed when they called me back to tell me that I have to pay, but in the end they dropped the charges due to the confusion. If you do it, then request a loaner when you make the appointment. I forgot to do that and they kept my car all day. I also get to pick up the strip of black molding for the license plate delete from the dealership today. I guess I need find a reputable oil shop and get my oil changed in about 5,000 miles.
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Thanks all. OK. I looked up the relevant paragraph in the 'Service Booklet', which came with the user manual.

"Page 6

Special note on engine oil changes
Calculation of the Service interval covers almost all operating situations. However, if you drive only very low annual distances, you should have the engine oil changed every two years at the latest, since it ages regardless of the distance the car has covered"

Well, it's pretty clear. The booklet confesses that the computer read-out means nothing for people like me who don't drive much. So why do some dealers disregard this? Are they misinformed or what? Why doesn't BMW setup a FAQ website for such general stuff??

I think I will ask an unofficial BMW service to do the oil and filter change. I don't want to argue with the stealership and piss them off.

PS. The Service Booklet is a recommended read. I learned a lot of stuff today. I know, I should have done so, when I first bought the car. Hell, I was busy driving back then, hehe.

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Only 5000 miles a year...??? wow looks like you dont use it a lot.
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well id hope most of you drive the hell out of your cars in the same ways i do because thats what a bmw is for!
Yup, I drive only on weekends and that's mostly for pleasure. I averaged 105mph for 60 miles last Sunday.
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Regardless what BMW says, u should change the oil every 3,000 miles or 3 months, thats all it is good for. The the oil breaks down at 7,000 miles MAX for full syn, and even less for conventional plus the filter only last 3,000 miles, I bet if u havnt changed your oil filter in over a year then its black and not doing anything in the way off letter oil through so u mite wanna check that
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