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Old 05-27-2004, 04:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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its for the wife... IM KEEPING MY LIGHTNING..... we are trading in the 02 Jeep Liberty...

its a 2000 BMW 328i, 40k miles, silver, sport package w/ rims, leather, sunroof, auto, wood interior trim, etc... its got it all

it also has a Dinan package... not sure what that really is, but its got Dinan exhaust and a Dinan chip in it....

the car is in perfect shape.... not a dent on it

i got dealer down to $19k... kbb.com says a trade in value is $21k... do seems like a good deal...

what do you guys think?? does the Dinan stuff worry ya at all?? the dealer said its the only aftermarket stuff that BMW approves....

anyone know anything about that?? any thoughts??
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Old 05-27-2004, 05:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds like PREtty good deal. Dinan parts are upgrades, the chip most likly gives the car more HP, or and better Gas millage... ummm. C if u can get him to any lower just for shits and giggles.
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Sounds like a decent deal - not spectacular, but fair

If it's got wood interior trim, it probably has the premium package, unless the previous owner added that after - most people actually pull the wood out for a different interior trim.

Regarding the Dinan chip, here's what their website says about it (adds 6 HP, 7 ft/lbs of TQ) - Dinan Performance Engine Software unleashes more power by re-programming the fuel mixture and ignition timing parameters of the engine management system. Furthermore, the software safely raises the rev-limit, giving your BMW a broader power band and greater road speed potential in each gear. Significant gains are also achieved at part throttle, making extra power available where you spend the bulk of the time driving. The top speed governor has also been eliminated, enabling the vehicle to achieve it's "natural" top speed.

Regarding the exhaust (5 HP, 4 ft/lbs of TQ) - Dinan's Free Flow Exhaust for the 3 series models provides increased flow for power gains without the excessive noise associated with typical "performance" mufflers. The Dinan exhausts feature rigid and durable muffler cases, manufactured from 20 gauge 304-stainless steel for optimum corrosion resistance. Internally, the systems feature Dinan's Tuned Resonance Chamber technology which provides the optimum balance between maximum power gains and a civilized, yet sporty exhaust note. The Dinan exhaust also provides substantial weight reduction compared to the stock muffler, weighing in at just over 17 lbs., compared to the stock system at 28 lbs. Dual 2.5 inch diameter polished stainless steel exhaust tips give the cars a tasteful performance look as well.

Most E46 (1999 - current 3 series) enthusiasts don't like Dinan because 1) it's very expensive, and 2) it doesn't provide the performance gains that other after market products do. But this car already has it, so who cares about that stuff.

They are great cars, good luck in your decision
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its a good deal
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Old 05-28-2004, 08:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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ok, wife and I went and test drove it last night...

here is everything I know

Dinan exhaust
Dinan Cold Air Kit
Dinan Chip

Sport & Premium Package

40k miles

new brakes

new tires

car is in PERFECT condition, i couldnt find one scratch on it... 3 of the rims had curb rash, but I told him that would have to be fixed before I ever left the lot with it and he said they have a guy that fixes that and will look like new...

other than that, my only problem is the warranty... they cant bmw certify it because of the Dinan... it has the 50k warranty, but wont cover any problems that pertain to the chip/exhaust/air kit

any suggestions on the warranty??

and hes holding firm at $19k
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Ask for a extended warranty from heritage maybe? should only cost you 1200 or so.
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who is heritage? how do I go about getting a Dinan extended warranty??? any info is appreciated....

also, can I get the warranty after I purchase the car?
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Heritage is the warranty company all dealerships use when factory warranties are extended. They are basically a private company from what i gather.... I bought my extended warranty from the dealer, and it was a heritage warranty.
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