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Old 06-08-2004, 06:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am looking at a 01 325i for 24,900 at a local dealership. The first time I drove a BMW was this past weekend on a test drive and I do have to say I am very impressed with the car.

My question to you is would this be a good car for somebody working full time and going to school part time. I need something reliable that I can just get in and go. Granted with proper maintence.

I know this is a biased forum but I figured who better to ask than the people that own the car.

I have heard that its a great tight car but over time itl produce rattles and squeaks and be in the shop for minor stupid repairs.

Any help would be appreciated. And if I have my way I will be joining your ranks as a BMW owner.

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Old 06-08-2004, 08:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would say to get it. After you get it checked by a mechanic first goes without saying. The price tag sounds good to me, you could see how much they might be willing to go down on the price.I spent that much on a 2000 323i. I also do a lot of driving ( normally 6000 to 10000 miles a month) and ever since I got the Bimmer , I have had no problems. Routine maintenance is all that I have done If you know people or you have a good dealer the prices on the routine stuff won't kill you. Even if you don't have a good dealer or know people I am sure that you have freinds that will know some one. I must say that after owning four previous vehicles this one has taken the cake and I do not think that I will ever buy anything other than Bimmers from now on out.
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Old 06-08-2004, 09:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome Crackerkorean,

I purchased my '99 328i a few months ago. I got it with 51,000 miles on it. So far no problems. I do show that my next "inspection" (or tune up) is in about 8,500 miles. I love the drive it gives me and the coolness of it just sitting in the driveway. B)

As far as I know, and I'm not a mechanic or anything, a BMW will last you a long time, as long as you keep up with it's maintanence, which all in all, can be alot $$$, however, and is fairly routine, acording to the on-board-computer. Like I said before, I'm expecting my Inspection to come in a few thousand miles. They can run you about $300-$800 depending on the dealership and other factors. And as well, from what I understand, they check alot in the inspection.

Don't get me wrong here. When I say routine, I don't mean it happens every month or so, I mean that you know when it's time, and the car will litterally tell you.

That price sounds about right for a 2001 325i, just make sure that you get a warranty, just incase. You can also request a recipt for its maintanence. All dealers keep a computerized record of the cars that were serviced at a BMW facility. It should tell you whether or not it was taken care of, well, at least according to BMW that is.

Hope this helps in some way...
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I'm not biased towards other makes, I've come from driving two Mercedes, two Fords, a Chrysler, Volkswagen, etc...... but after driving a BMW, it just feels good.
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Thanks for the welcome guys.

The car is certified used from BMW and would come with an additional 50,000 mile warrenty on top of the factory one. Talking to the sales man he said the 60,000 mile check is the most expensive and its 650$.

He also said that he can get me all the maintence records on that car because it was maintained at the dealership.

I was told that maintence is every 15,000 miles is that right?

I am heading to colorado end of this week for vacation so I wont be able to purchsase my car before then. I dont know if itl be there when I get back its a starting point for what im looking for.

Surprisingly from a TAX and insurance stand point that car is cheaper for the most part than the other cars im looking at so thats a plus also.

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to the forum!

You can check autotrader.com, kbb.com or edmunds.com for price and bluebook info.

Also, consumerreports.org or the Consumer Reports Annual Buying Guide (at your local book store or library) has reliability reports that cover this year.

As far as maint. pricing, price shop several dealers/independent BMW mechanics. Based on some previous posts, the difference can be substantial.

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Buying a used BMW with the CPO Warranty is the way to go. My 2000 323cic has been in the shop twice in the last two months for an oxygen sensor replacement and just recently a "circuit switch" replacement - both covered under the CPO warranty. This is my second BMW, (drove Hondas before and a bunch of other makes), and I can say that the two problems are out of character for the BMW, (my previous BMW had no problems ever).

As far as the required maintenance goes my understanding is that the intervals are not set in stone. The on board computer (OBC) monitors your driving style and determines when the car should have the maintenence performed, (e.g. Grandma Smith will not need maintenance as soon as Leadfoot Larry). So the mileage remaining you see until the next maintenance interval may vary.

Lastly, I pre-purchased the maintenance on the car for around $ 750.00. This covers normal oil changes as well as the regular maintence intervals, (for $ 750.00 it will just about pay for itself after the 45k inspection).
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Lastly, I pre-purchased the maintenance on the car for around $ 750.00. This covers normal oil changes as well as the regular maintence intervals, (for $ 750.00 it will just about pay for itself after the 45k inspection).
Cool, I wasn't aware that you could do that... Would that be the same price for a BMW not bought in a dealer lot? For how long would that be in effect?

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That price sounds about right for a 2001 325i
This price seems to follow all the prices around in my area. I know the car is 25 but would it be wrong for me to ask if they are willing to take 22. I can pay the note at 25 but would def prefer it just to be a little cheaper.
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wouldn't we all????

you could try, then ask to split the difference, don't push your luck though, seeing how your already getting the warranty...

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Try and get at the least 1500 off the price tag. The sellers should drop at least that much. Keep asking it can't hurt. Oh and a little secret if you can try to buy it late in the month. Dealerships try and make quotas so it might allow them a little more leaneance in the price the later you wait. I saved 2500 haggling with them and the closer I got to the end of the month the lower I was able to get them, but like doughboy said try not to screw yourtself over and lose that good warranty.
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That price sounds about right for a 2001 325i
This price seems to follow all the prices around in my area. I know the car is 25 but would it be wrong for me to ask if they are willing to take 22. I can pay the note at 25 but would def prefer it just to be a little cheaper.
If you initiate a negotiation, you have to determine at what price you're willing to walk away from the car. If you're willing to pay the asking price and they have other's interested in the car, there's no reason for them to lower the price much.

If you're not willing to pay the asking price, determine your top offering price, start about 1k lower and negotiate up from there. Maybe they can throw in a tire/rim warranty, security system, better maintenance contract, etc.

Maybe find some similar models at other dealers that would meet your needs and attempt to negotiate among the dealers. Otherwise I don't see what leverage you have unless the dealer/salesperson is desperate to make a sale. Maybe wait until a couple of days before the end of the month when they're trying to make their sales quota.

No downside to asking.

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I just bought a 2001 wagon 46,000 miles, step, cold weather, Harmon K sound, good cond. for $19k from a motivated private owner.
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