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#1 (permalink) Old 02-03-2005, 01:51 PM
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Thanks for stopping bye. I own a 2000 328CI with 78,000 miles. I'm the second owner of the car and bought it at 52,000. The car is in great shape EXCEPT for one major issue. 3 of the 4 rear strutt mounts have worked their way loose from the subframe of the rear of the car. Which has caused me to park it.

Back in Sept. 04 I started to hear noise comming from the rear of the car. The noise got louder in time and then I realized I owned a lemon...or a car that was manufactured poorley. The car was inspected closely when I bought it at 52,000...and in mint shape. There is no warranty left on the vehicle today and I'm in a shitty situation.

I took the car to two local body shops in the area. Both estimated they could weld the rear strutts mounts back to the subframe and re-enforce the problem and get me back on the road...but at the tune of about $2,400. I also took my car to official BMW dealership in southern NH. Both the Body Shop Manager and the Service Manager looked extensively at the car and mentioned they never seen this happen to my model. Both mentioned that even tho the car was out of warranty ... to call BMW Cooperate Offices and file a complaint about the malfunction of the car. Even they felt sorry ...but didn't have a true solution other then me dishing out thousands. So, I called BMW cooperate offices...and explained that the Rear Strutt Mounts should not rip out from the subframe of a car after normal driving. They offered no evidence of helping. Basically admitted it shouldn
t happen...but they weren't going to help with their product. I don't beat on my car...I simply drive back and forth to work..etc. I've done nothing to initiate something like this happening in this vehicle. The whole situation stinks.

I own this beautiful black on black 328CI and it appears to have been manufactured with a defective subframe. And even if I dish out the $2,400 for the body shop to get into it and weld the strutt mounts ... there is nothing saying it won't loosen away from the metal in the future. So I'm almost forced to pay
$4,500 to BMW to fix something..that should exist any way. And BMW explained they were more expensive because they would actually be replacing the entire rear subframe...and doing more extensive work to get it right.

DOES anyone know of any recalls for such a problem? Has anyone experience this and how did you fix it? This stinks....owning a beautiful automobile that I can't drive right now. I feel like offering my opion to BMW more.

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I am not much of a car guy but how did you identify the problem. What did it sound like. I have a 2000 328 with 57,000 miles and I have a slight noise coming from the rear.. sounds sorta like a rubbing. it increases with speed. Some people here said it might be a wheel baring. However, when I took it to the dealer last week they didn't hear it.. of course they wouldn't driving in the parking lot. They said it was probalby road noise but I don't know.
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At first you couldn't tell that the Rear Strutt Mounts where breaking away. The noise was very slight. Eventually it got louder in the Cab of the car. At that point ...it was put on a lift and it was obvious when you looked in the area. The metal was weakening and just waiting to go. Still looking for the right solution...other then paying BMW many dollars to fix some thing that they built wrong.
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WARELL...good luck identifying the problem. I hope it turns out simply...and unlike the one I have.

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Same thing happened to me, Im tryin to sell mine now. If you go to www.turnermotorsport.com you can find the repair kit for it and a brief explanation. BMW told me the same exact thing, they have never seen it before, maybe that sbecause they never actually "seen" it, but I know they have heard of it. You cant tell me that with all the engineers and specialist they havent came across 1 instance on the internet of it happening, give me a break. I was quoted between $2000 and $3000 for the labor to fix it at the local shop. The BMW shop couldnt fix it because they dont have welding equipment. This is a known issue though, I learned alot about the problem on E46Fanatics.com, just do a search for rear subframe mounts.

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Thanks for sharing. I'll check out the sites you mentioned. Really appreciate you steering me in the right direction. I hope to put this whole car night mare to rest..and find a reasonable solution. And not one that cost millions. I so frustrated that I own a car that broke down in this way. It's kinda like a cost you don't expect to deal with as a consumer. By the way...did you ever actually fix yours??
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No I didnt fix mine, I happened to come across a good deal on a new one so I just bought it. Mine still sits at the dealership waiting to be sold, Im just going to take my losses on it. I know it can be fixed so Ill let somebody else benefit from it. If you know anybody looking for 2000 323i with 65000 miles, for between $5000-$8000 (Im taking offers) let me know. Thanks

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y'all:

this happens to e36, and is now happening to e46.

now: when the s54 motors started imploding, bmw said the same bull^&%$.

then, they offered 100k warranty, replacement motors, and modified their faulty manufacturing process of the main bearings.

so: send them more letters. be incessant. this may result in success, even if not for you personally, then for some other poor sod with a destroyed car....
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Speaking of being a poor SOD...or a poor SOB. I couldn't agree with you more,,thanks for sharing.

Maybe I was daft~ It amazes me there are solutions out there to fix a KNOWN problem....such as the repair kit that "Jkloese" steered me towards...and despite this, BMW hasn't been forced to recall their rear weak subframes. I've noticed recalls on earlier models...but not mine yet.

When I say I love the car...I really do...great driving experience....when its on the road. But I can promise them a letter and more conversation from this consumer. How frustrated is this s)*&...no matter when your warrenty is up. Especially having this happen at 77,000 miles. This is like buying a house and the roof falls off!! That's not supposed to happen when all you do is open the front door and enjoy it.
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