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looks vs. performance????????

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#1 ·
i want to buy a set of hamann 19" rims.....but i don't know if i would affect the performance of the car if i drop it with EIBACH PRO-KIT springs . I know that afterwards it'll look hot, but is it worth it if the car drives like s##t???


Also which tire manufacturer is recommended for E46's.......???



<<<<help please>>>>>

rims---- 19x8.5 Hamann HM2

tires--- 235x35x19


dh
 
#2 ·
i was stuck with this indecision before on whether to get 18's or 19's.

first off, i would NOT sacrafice the ride of the car. it wouldn't be worth anything, if your car rides like s---t. keep in mind that 19's will ride rougher than the 18's. the 18's is much better performance wise and the 19's is just for looks. i have decided to go with 18's when i get ready to purchase some new rims for mine.

tires? i like the michilen pilot sport, but there are other good tires such as bridgestone potenza, dunlop sp sport, pirelli pzero, and yokohama avs sport.
 
#3 ·
fuck looks... all performance. if you want looks go paint a kleenex box pretty and go put it in your car.
 
#5 ·
therefore going performance and not looks.
 
#6 ·
performance = SSR GT1s or Integrals or Competitions, BBS lightweights...

looks = Hamann, ACS, etc.

tires: go for the widest tires you can drop on your rims, especially your drive wheels, the more rubber, the more grip, the safer and the better the handling. I like Yoko AVS Sports myself, but Michelin Pilot Sports and BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KDs are good too.
 
#8 ·
Originally posted by SpeedsterBMW@Jun 15 2003, 05:57 AM
there are these one Good Year's, that tirerack ranked as the #1 tire in the "Max Performance" category, second are the SO-3 Pole Positions
:werd:
 
#10 ·
Originally posted by woobiee@Jun 15 2003, 07:13 PM
toyos TS1
bridgestones S03
michelin pilot sports
yokohama avs

great tires, not in that order tho..

i think 18" is the best overall for an E46...its the perfect balance in performance and looks. i personally think the E46 M3 is perfect in 19s. but we are talking about a normal E46 so I say 18"
how could 18" outhandle 19" Andy? I am asking for facts not opinions... :thumbs
 
#11 ·
QUOTE (woobiee @ Jun 15 2003, 07:13 PM)
toyos TS1
bridgestones S03
michelin pilot sports
yokohama avs

great tires, not in that order tho..

i think 18" is the best overall for an E46...its the perfect balance in performance and looks. i personally think the E46 M3 is perfect in 19s. but we are talking about a normal E46 so I say 18"

how could 18" outhandle 19" Andy? I am asking for facts not opinions...
that is information ive gathered over the years...and most people agree. its the perfect balance in performance, looks, and ride quality/cabin noise. :p
 
#12 ·
Originally posted by woobiee@Jun 15 2003, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (woobiee @ Jun 15 2003, 07:13 PM)
toyos TS1
bridgestones S03
michelin pilot sports
yokohama avs

great tires, not in that order tho..

i think 18" is the best overall for an E46...its the perfect balance in performance and looks. i personally think the E46 M3 is perfect in 19s. but we are talking about a normal E46 so I say 18"

how could 18" outhandle 19" Andy? I am asking for facts not opinions...
that is information ive gathered over the years...and most people agree. its the perfect balance in performance, looks, and ride quality/cabin noise. :p
lol ANdy's just jealous cause bigger is better :drunk

19" PwnZ j00z :yup
 
#13 ·
18 or 19 is irrelivant in the question. some sized rims work better with different cars. in this case i think 18's would work better. but on an M3 the 19's would work better. different strokes for different cars (isnt that the way it goes?)


my reasoning behind why 18's over 19's , is because the rim is lighter and you can fit more tire on them creating more contact patch. however on an M3 with wider wheel wells , you can maximize better with 19's because the space is greater.
 
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#14 ·
Originally posted by Furious@Jun 16 2003, 01:07 PM
18 or 19 is irrelivant in the question. some sized rims work better with different cars. in this case i think 18's would work better. but on an M3 the 19's would work better. different strokes for different cars (isnt that the way it goes?)


my reasoning behind why 18's over 19's , is because the rim is lighter and you can fit more tire on them creating more contact patch. however on an M3 with wider wheel wells , you can maximize better with 19's because the space is greater.
exactly! my 19" rim has the same amout of sidwall, as a normal e46's 18"s do....
 
#15 ·
Originally posted by SpeedsterBMW+Jun 16 2003, 10:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SpeedsterBMW @ Jun 16 2003, 10:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Furious@Jun 16 2003, 01:07 PM
18 or 19 is irrelivant in the question. some sized rims work better with different cars. in this case i think 18's would work better. but on an M3 the 19's would work better. different strokes for different cars (isnt that the way it goes?)


my reasoning behind why 18's over 19's , is because the rim is lighter and you can fit more tire on them creating more contact patch. however on an M3 with wider wheel wells , you can maximize better with 19's because the space is greater.
exactly! my 19" rim has the same amout of sidwall, as a normal e46's 18"s do.... [/b][/quote]
nope... 19's still pwn on my e46 :thumbsdown
 
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#16 ·
Originally posted by L337E46+Jun 16 2003, 03:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (L337E46 @ Jun 16 2003, 03:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -SpeedsterBMW@Jun 16 2003, 10:55 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Furious
@Jun 16 2003, 01:07 PM
18 or 19 is irrelivant in the question. some sized rims work better with different cars. in this case i think 18's would work better. but on an M3 the 19's would work better. different strokes for different cars (isnt that the way it goes?)


my reasoning behind why 18's over 19's , is because the rim is lighter and you can fit more tire on them creating more contact patch. however on an M3 with wider wheel wells , you can maximize better with 19's because the space is greater.

exactly! my 19" rim has the same amout of sidwall, as a normal e46's 18"s do....
nope... 19's still pwn on my e46 :thumbsdown [/b][/quote]
i can fit 20"s and you cant :cuddle
 
#17 ·
shouldn't the width be wider on the 19's for 3 series? because E46 325i sport package has tires that are 225/50/R17. (i think) and the 19's that l337 has are 235/35/R19. only 10mm wider, that's hardly anything. i would think it wouldn't handle as well since it's not as balanced. i mean they're too tall and thin compared to the 17's
 
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#18 ·
Originally posted by donutchow@Jun 16 2003, 03:44 PM
shouldn't the width be wider on the 19's for 3 series? because E46 325i sport package has tires that are 225/50/R17. (i think) and the 19's that l337 has are 235/35/R19. only 10mm wider, that's hardly anything. i would think it wouldn't handle as well since it's not as balanced. i mean they're too tall and thin compared to the 17's
sidewall height and width are all that matters.....though my bros rims with 225's in the front, and 255's out back...will pwnz l337 in handling!
 
#19 ·
Originally posted by SpeedsterBMW+Jun 16 2003, 11:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SpeedsterBMW @ Jun 16 2003, 11:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--donutchow@Jun 16 2003, 03:44 PM
shouldn't the width be wider on the 19's for 3 series? because E46 325i sport package has tires that are 225/50/R17. (i think) and the 19's that l337 has are 235/35/R19. only 10mm wider, that's hardly anything. i would think it wouldn't handle as well since it's not as balanced. i mean they're too tall and thin compared to the 17's
sidewall height and width are all that matters.....though my bros rims with 225's in the front, and 255's out back...will pwnz l337 in handling! [/b][/quote]
nope my 19's still pwnz :thumbsdown
 
#20 ·
Originally posted by L337E46+Jun 16 2003, 05:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (L337E46 @ Jun 16 2003, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -SpeedsterBMW@Jun 16 2003, 11:54 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--donutchow
@Jun 16 2003, 03:44 PM
shouldn't the width be wider on the 19's for 3 series? because E46 325i sport package has tires that are 225/50/R17. (i think) and the 19's that l337 has are 235/35/R19. only 10mm wider, that's hardly anything. i would think it wouldn't handle as well since it's not as balanced. i mean they're too tall and thin compared to the 17's

sidewall height and width are all that matters.....though my bros rims with 225's in the front, and 255's out back...will pwnz l337 in handling!
nope my 19's still pwnz :thumbsdown [/b][/quote]
hey John i wonder whos car would handle better if our suspensions were stock? my 245/40/17? or your 235/35/R19? granted its only 10mm more .but its be worth seeing who could out handle. and im talking my stock 325is suspension not the Mtech suspension that came with my car.
 
#21 ·
Originally posted by Furious+Jun 16 2003, 07:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Furious @ Jun 16 2003, 07:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -L337E46@Jun 16 2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by -SpeedsterBMW@Jun 16 2003, 11:54 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--donutchow
@Jun 16 2003, 03:44 PM
shouldn't the width be wider on the 19's for 3 series? because E46 325i sport package has tires that are 225/50/R17. (i think) and the 19's that l337 has are 235/35/R19. only 10mm wider, that's hardly anything. i would think it wouldn't handle as well since it's not as balanced. i mean they're too tall and thin compared to the 17's

sidewall height and width are all that matters.....though my bros rims with 225's in the front, and 255's out back...will pwnz l337 in handling!

nope my 19's still pwnz :thumbsdown
hey John i wonder whos car would handle better if our suspensions were stock? my 245/40/17? or your 235/35/R19? granted its only 10mm more .but its be worth seeing who could out handle. and im talking my stock 325is suspension not the Mtech suspension that came with my car. [/b][/quote]
i say my 19's pwnz cause I'm running a cup kit with 2.1" drop...

People who go 19" with a high suspension are smoking crack... It's basically like riding a monster truck

19's pwnz!!! :bow
 
#22 ·
Originally posted by L337E46+Jun 16 2003, 07:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (L337E46 @ Jun 16 2003, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Furious@Jun 16 2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by -L337E46@Jun 16 2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by -SpeedsterBMW@Jun 16 2003, 11:54 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--donutchow
@Jun 16 2003, 03:44 PM
shouldn't the width be wider on the 19's for 3 series? because E46 325i sport package has tires that are 225/50/R17. (i think) and the 19's that l337 has are 235/35/R19. only 10mm wider, that's hardly anything. i would think it wouldn't handle as well since it's not as balanced. i mean they're too tall and thin compared to the 17's

sidewall height and width are all that matters.....though my bros rims with 225's in the front, and 255's out back...will pwnz l337 in handling!

nope my 19's still pwnz :thumbsdown

hey John i wonder whos car would handle better if our suspensions were stock? my 245/40/17? or your 235/35/R19? granted its only 10mm more .but its be worth seeing who could out handle. and im talking my stock 325is suspension not the Mtech suspension that came with my car.
i say my 19's pwnz cause I'm running a cup kit with 2.1" drop...

People who go 19" with a high suspension are smoking crack... It's basically like riding a monster truck

19's pwnz!!! :bow [/b][/quote]
sheesh . .i said stock vs. stock. i think id win. but if it was cup kit and 19's vs. mtech and 17's i think you have the edge because of the low centre of gravity
 
#23 ·
Originally posted by Furious+Jun 16 2003, 09:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Furious @ Jun 16 2003, 09:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -L337E46@Jun 16 2003, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by -Furious@Jun 16 2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by -L337E46@Jun 16 2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by -SpeedsterBMW@Jun 16 2003, 11:54 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--donutchow
@Jun 16 2003, 03:44 PM
shouldn't the width be wider on the 19's for 3 series? because E46 325i sport package has tires that are 225/50/R17. (i think) and the 19's that l337 has are 235/35/R19. only 10mm wider, that's hardly anything. i would think it wouldn't handle as well since it's not as balanced. i mean they're too tall and thin compared to the 17's

sidewall height and width are all that matters.....though my bros rims with 225's in the front, and 255's out back...will pwnz l337 in handling!

nope my 19's still pwnz :thumbsdown

hey John i wonder whos car would handle better if our suspensions were stock? my 245/40/17? or your 235/35/R19? granted its only 10mm more .but its be worth seeing who could out handle. and im talking my stock 325is suspension not the Mtech suspension that came with my car.

i say my 19's pwnz cause I'm running a cup kit with 2.1" drop...

People who go 19" with a high suspension are smoking crack... It's basically like riding a monster truck

19's pwnz!!! :bow
sheesh . .i said stock vs. stock. i think id win. but if it was cup kit and 19's vs. mtech and 17's i think you have the edge because of the low centre of gravity [/b][/quote]
:werd: :rock
 
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