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3-Series (E46, E90)Chat relating to the BMW 3-Series from 1999 to Current. Models include: BMW 316i, BMW 318i, BMW 318Ci, BMW 320i, BMW 323i, BMW 325i, BMW 330i, BMW 328 Ci, BMW 328i, BMW 325i/xi, BMW 330Ci, BMW 320d, BMW 330d, BMW 335d.
1996-9 240 HP M3 E36 coupe 5 speed US is 5.7 seconds to 60 with a good driver. US 330ci 5 speed is 5.8 with a good driver. Although being peppier and lighter, the M3 pulls away from it. The 95 M3 (my car) is about 5.9 to 60, but due to its 3175lb weight it has the start and stays infront. When racing agenst a 330ci preformance package, which i have not done, i could definitly loose. I have heard its around 5.5 to 60. 330ci Preformance also tops out higher at above 160 w/o the govonor. Mine (95) stock runs about 150mph.
M5IAN Posted Today, 10:07 AM
* 1996-9 240 HP M3 E36 coupe 5 speed US is 5.7 seconds to 60 with a good driver. US 330ci 5 speed is 5.8 with a good driver. Although being peppier and lighter, the M3 pulls away from it. The 95 M3 (my car) is about 5.9 to 60, but due to its 3175lb weight it has the start and stays infront. When racing agenst a 330ci preformance package, which i have not done, i could definitly loose. I have heard its around 5.5 to 60. 330ci Preformance also tops out higher at above 160 w/o the govonor. Mine (95) stock runs about 150mph.
Do you really think so? I have a 330ci ZHP, and i was wondering how it would do against an E36 M3. So far the only cars ive raced are g35 coupes, whom i lost to, and a bunch of 330's + 325's. I've raced a 330i ZHP and lost to it even though he had close no tread on his tire (he was a much better shifter). I haven't acually gotten to gtech my car, but im probably going to try and get it some time this week, if i do, i'll let you know what the 0-60 is. Also, i've been able to top out the governor at 155, and it did feel like i had plenty more RPMs to climb even at that speed. Im sure without a governor i can go past 160 though the tach wouldnt say it.
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gonna leave this for deloriant to jump on, i had an E36 (328i) and have an E46 now (330i ). E36 non M beats an E46 withhout performance anyday in a race longer then just a 0-60 drag race!!
__________________ <span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>JUST SOLD:</span> <span style='color:blue'>01 BMW 330i with Sport & M Package(5sp)</span></span>
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'>Past:</span> <span style='color:red'>1996 BMW 328i</span></span>
Well, I hate to dissapoint you 330ci owners, yes your cars are gorgeous, but when you get down to it, BMW is letting the slack out on their 3 series cars. The e46's are plan and simple nowhere near the e36's in terms of power-weight ratio. Given same skill drivers, an e36 m3 would paste a 330ci with ease.
I own a 1996 328is with intake, chip (OBDII), and exhaust. My HP and torque stock are 190/212. With my mods, I am probably making 200hp/220ftlbtq to the fly at most. I raced a 330ci (manual), both cars had passengers, good driver ( I know him ) from a ROLL. Took him by between a length and 2 lengths most of the race. And yes he shot ahead at the end because I was slowing for the turn.
Originally posted by Q_BMW@Dec 14 2004, 11:17 PM gonna leave this for deloriant to jump on, i had an E36 (328i) and have an E46 now (330i ). E36 non M beats an E46 withhout performance anyday in a race longer then just a 0-60 drag race!!
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HA, my E46 325, took some guys E36 328 just last night... not sure on the driving skill as it was not drag (Fag) racing.
We were going through a two lane canyon for about five to six miles and I had him the whole time, also my friends NA RSX S with mods couldn't keep up with mine either... it's not all in power to wieght. Drag styles most larger output NA engines do have an advantage but driveline ergonomics and drag coefficient have a shit load to do with it too. Not to mention every other tech upgade made every year on throttle response friction loss etc.
The 0-60 times are meaningless because the only other 3 series stock BMW that will come close to an M3, any M3, is another M3. You can have your 330 with sport suspension and your 225bhp engine, but handling wise there is as big a difference again as going from standard to sports suspension.
In addition 0-60 gets you "off the blocks". The M3 is quicker accelerating in the gears. That said I have never heard of an M3 E36 with only 240 bhp.
By the way, the E46 M3 CSL will paste the lot. It has 350 bhp and is over 400 pounds lighter than a standard M3.
I have driven the 328i (e36) the 325i and 330i. It was hard to believe initially that the 330i can possibly get its ass kicked by a 328i in a race ( not drag!) but a 325 i is significantly slower then a 328i e36 anyday man...sorry to say that.....its plain out a slow bmw (unless its modified well!)
I love my E46 too and its a great car, but i just moved from a yr and half of owning an e36 (328i) to a 330i(e46) and I am quite sure of the differences!!
E46 all the way too!! but E36 is quicker.......
__________________ <span style='font-size:15pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>JUST SOLD:</span> <span style='color:blue'>01 BMW 330i with Sport & M Package(5sp)</span></span>
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'>Past:</span> <span style='color:red'>1996 BMW 328i</span></span>
lol.. I have never raced and really don't drive around too fast.. but I am just wondering if I ever did what I could expect. I have a 2000 323i with sport package I do believe... so can I beat a civic?? :P And as far as a bmw goes how does the power rate.. I am guessing on the low end.. thx
Originally posted by Deloriant@Dec 15 2004, 03:22 PM Well, I suppose there is only one easy way to do this...any local e46 owners down for a race? Actions speak better than words...
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You will beat most Civics but not a Type "R". This will run any non "M" 3 series virtually off the road (if it does not fall apart).
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