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That is totally true also. They (BMW) do not endose any aftermarket modifications to your vehicle unless its DINAN.
But even still DINAN can't beat some of the stuff that's out there!
I'd wait till your warranty is up to do anything unless you have connections to a mechanic that works on BMW's and is willing to do anything for you then be my guest! Otherwise wait till that lease or warranty is up.
That is totally true also. They (BMW) do not endose any aftermarket modifications to your vehicle unless its DINAN.
But even still DINAN can't beat some of the stuff that's out there!
I'd wait till your warranty is up to do anything unless you have connections to a mechanic that works on BMW's and is willing to do anything for you then be my guest! Otherwise wait till that lease or warranty is up.
Steve
Yeah, but funny how so many vishnu and procede guys are blowing up their still-very-new 3 liter turbo engines and discover that they're SOL on the warranty coverage. I wouldn't touch non-Dinan upgrades for a 335/135 with a ten foot pole. Maybe when they're 100000 miles old and I had installed bigger intercoolers and oil coolers.
Any thoughts? It seems like a good deal for 40HP..
Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks
Simple tunes like that are fine, anyone on this board who says otherwise is talking jibberish. With Riss DP's, CAI, JB3 tune and Forge DV's you can put down over 400 at the wheels on race gas all day, everyday. Add meth injection and it opens up some insanity. My first tune was the JB+ which is better than the TT as you can dial in the boost you want up to 4.75 over stock. I believe the JB+ is the perfect ticket for the person who wants just a little bit more across the board. I ran it for 22k miles and am now on the JB3 map 2, DP's and CAI doing 374-380hp at the wheels on stock coolers and DV's.
Whatever tune you get go ahead and buy a Bavtech scanner so you can clear the manipulation code before service when you pull your chip. Most times the code won't even show but its best to be safe than sorry.
Whats funny is there are no motors being blown on Vishnu or Juicebox tunes as Teh Prof says. If he knew anything about these tunes he would know that vishnu AND procede are one and the same. Do people actually think this motor would self destruct before going into limp mode? Steve at ASPTuning is also incorrect about additional mods being needed for this simple tune.
Funny how so many people know so little about the n54 power plant.
Most of the 335i's and 135i's that have suffered a motor failure (mostly turbo failures) have had the Vishnu software installed. What people don't know is that Shiv (the owner of Vishnu) is known amongst the Evo community, particularly on the west coast, of blowing many motors with his shitty tunes. Regardless of whether the motor goes into limp mode or not, you're still f*cked.
I wouldn't touch any car that has had Vishnu software installed, BMW or not.
Dinan is expensive, but they back your car with their warranty. The reason their stuff is expensive is because of the development costs to maximize performance while maintaining longevity/reliability + the name. Active Autowerke is also reputable in the BMW community and so is Turner Motorsport.
People have seen relatively big power gains with the AFE intake system with the dynamic air scoops on the N54.
Although, the N54 has had issues in it's stock form with overheating as well as general turbo failure. Tuned or not, the N54 has been fickle to say the least.
Why would anyone stray from the Dinan tuning while knowing that it's warrantee backed? Should I even need to post this question? Edit: Oh, and juiced3, do you cool down your car(s) after any and all hard running?
No witeshark, the question shouldn't need to be asked. Dinan is obviously the safe choice but for some reason people do not want to spend the extra $$$ in comparison to other products for the N54.
Dinan is $$$ for what you get. I have a friend that spent a few $1000.00 on Dinan for like 30 - 40 HP. I went with the Active Autowerke Exhaust, BOV, Intercooler , and Processor . So far so good I did a dyno run a few weeks ago in hot 95 degree South Florida Weather . I ended up at 327 to the wheels. I asked the guy at Active who does all the tuning and he said they tried making the processor more aggressive but the gains weren't worth the beating it put on the car. Active is a pretty reputable company ...Great knowledge and customer service !
Dinan is $$$ for what you get. I have a friend that spent a few $1000.00 on Dinan for like 30 - 40 HP. I went with the Active Autowerke Exhaust, BOV, Intercooler , and Processor . So far so good I did a dyno run a few weeks ago in hot 95 degree South Florida Weather . I ended up at 327 to the wheels. I asked the guy at Active who does all the tuning and he said they tried making the processor more aggressive but the gains weren't worth the beating it put on the car. Active is a pretty reputable company ...Great knowledge and customer service !
Dinan does cost big $$$, but it's the only safe option if you want to tune your car and not have to worry about losing your warranty. Even though modifying your car does not technically void your warranty, you can guarantee if your motor went boom, the dealership wouldn't even waste their time with you. At the very least Dinan will honor their warranty. Essentially the extra money paid is going to their warranty program.
I do agree that Active Autowerke is extremely reputable, they are just as good as Dinan without a doubt. I really liked the stuff they had out for the E46 M3 and I can't wait to see some official stuff for the new E92 M3 as I'll be picking one up in a few years. The only downside with Active is if something bad does happen you're not guaranteed anything.
Extended Warranties from other companies are such a blessing ! I do agree the warranty is something you want to hang on to ! I would do some research on Dinan because I've been hearing stories that the dealerships are still giving people hard times with Dinan . I can't remember where I heard or read it ????
Technically when Dinan tunes your car you lose the factory warranty but Dinan covers your car with their warranty. If something bad happens, a Dinan authorized dealership has to take care of it. Technically, it shouldn't be a problem if you go to that same dealership. Who knows with this stuff anyways?
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