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He guys...I've got a question. I have a 2000 BMW 323CI (in picture) that is equipped with Sport pkg, Steptronic, leather, etc... I bought the car as a CPO, so it carries a 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty, it now has 52k. I was just passing through a dealership the other day and saw a 1999 Porsche Boxster. It is white with black leather, 5-speed, hardtop, 18" Sport turbo wheels, and 24k miles. The car has never had any paintwork etc.., good overall shape. The dealership offered to swap even...what do you guys think? The Boxster has NO warranty b/c time is out on it, but has 1/2 the miles mine has and remember mine carries a 100k mile warranty. Would it be a good trade or should I just keep the Bimmer...I love the car, there's not a thing wrong with it. I just thought the Boxster was nice looking too. Please reply.

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Boxster's not bad, but neither is your 323ci.
Given the insanely high cost of repairs on a Porsche, I'd say--without even knowing the KBB values of the two cares--that you'd be better served by sticking with that nice Bimmer that's covered by a warranty for another 48k.
Just my $.02
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i was never fond with the boxters. the boxter S is acceptable, but forget about the normal boxter. id say if its a standard boxter, keep your 323, if its a boxter s, thats something to think about.
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Keep in mind that the Dealership would not be offering this if they weren't making a buck. In other words, they feel they can get more money out of your BMW than out of the Boxter...

Porsche's cost a LOT of money for routine maintenance and repars...

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I think it depends on where you're from too. If you live in Florida or Southern Cali where it's nice and warm all the time I'd consider getting the Boxster. Otherwise the BMW is definetely a lot better to have around.

Whoever made the point about the dealer thinking he can make a buck, you better believe it. They have all sorts of charges they have to put up with just for having the cars on the lot. No matter what you do I'd look into the KBB of both your car and the Porsche before you go making any decisions.

For those of you who are saying that the Porsche will cost a lot more to repair, aren't Porsches as reliable/more reliable than BMWs? You see an awful lot of Porsches driving around from the mid-late and even early 80s.
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Hi! The Porsche I have found has been on the dealers lot for a long time. I think I saw it first in October, and as time went...I've watched the price get lower and lower. The salesman said that where I live is not a place, or there is no market in other words for Porsche cars...not many people can afford them he says. The Porsche is a standard boxster and was traded in out-of-state by a doctor who bought the car new for $52k, they have the sticker. It has a lot of toys, but when they want to trade a BMW with double the miles that cost $15k less when new for even...it makes me wonder? B) However, the Boxster is at a Dodge dealership?? so...

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Red flags right there..

The Porsche has been sitting on the lot for a while, and the price has been dropping. According to what the dealer told you, it's because nobody in your area can afford to buy it. So does that mean when he gets your car he plans to mark it down 10 grand and sell it quicker that way? That's a very bad argument on his behalf; it just doesn't make sense.

I've read about the Boxster in Car&Driver and I remember that the main message was that the non-S is downright sluggish. I'm guessing you haven't driven the car yet. That might be why you're still wondering about whether or not you should trade. THen again, I've never driven it either so I wouldn't really know.

Monetarily, the deal sounds too good to be true. And you know what they say about that. (It probably is)
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No I have driven the car...its pretty peppy. I mean its a fast as the BMW I think. The interior is pretty bland...I mean its all plastic. I dont know...I guess I'll hang on to the Bimmer since it has a 100k mile warranty? Here's the car:
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In my opinion I think the Porsche is ugly!! I think the BMW has way more class as well as over all appeal to me. But in the end you are the only one that can make the choice, so just make sure it is the right one!!

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No comparison, keep the damn BMW. Why would you want the "economy" porsche? I mean the 3 Series BMWs are crafted as finely as the rest of lineup. The Boxster is designed to compete in a more affordable younger market, and thus is designed that way. Porsches also have historically shitty resale, and reliability problems. It has to make you wonder why the car only has 24k miles on it. Also, you might THINK it hasnt had paintwork, but trust me, most people would never know alot of the cars ive looked have had repairs, as well as the fact that the repairs dont show up on Carfax or other sources in MANY MANY cases. Im so anal about this that I sometimes think my OWN 3 was probably repaired when I see some things on it. I look microscope close, and until I can put another one right next to it I will never just assume its "all good", Ive been through 8 cars in 3 years and let me tell you, ive learned just a thing or two about this industry (so much so I am in the process of getting my own dealers license....yea its THAT good).

A dealer will ALWAYS make money, the used car industry is rediculous, and they are never doing you a "favor". Those things are a piece in the used car world and your BMW would give them alot more bang for their buck,FASTER. Thats all they care about.

Pass that monster up.

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