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Old 04-14-2004, 03:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone,

I am new to this board & am interested in purchasing a 330i with the M Performance package (you call it ZHP in USA). I want to get the steptronic as my wife does not drive manual.

My question is will the low end acceleration be better with the ZHP with steptronic as opposed to the regular 330i with steptronic. I have been told that the ZHP with steptronic will cause an adverse affect to low end acceleration because of the torque converter in the ZHP.

Will the ZHP with steptronic actually make the car slower than the regular 330i with steptronic.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 04-14-2004, 03:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome !!!

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question.

Stick around though, someone will.

My suggestion, teach your wife how to drive a manual. Or don't let her drive it at all!!!

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Old 04-14-2004, 04:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have not heard this but since the ZHP package includes a lightened flywheel it does seem that low end acceleration could be adversely affected. Once the car is moving the increased power further up in the rev range would compensate. Also I wouldn't think that it would be but a 10th or so slower to 60 mph to begin with, not really that big a deal in the real world.
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OK I can't take it anymore, I've looked around but can't find it...someone PLEASE tell me what ZHP stands for?
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whoa i dont even know what it stands for lol


its just the tranny designation lol

its probably sumtin in german like Zuper hyper performance
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1. i have no clue what the zhp stands for.
2. the package offered on the 330 in the us is the Performance Package. this includes light flywheel, different cams, ignition map, manual tranny, rear diff etc etc. do not confuse this with the club sport package offered in europe and the uk.. that is for wusses, and has no worthwhile goodies, just some plastic body bits.
3. two trannies are on offer in the us in addition to 6speed manual. steptronic (bunch of guano imho, with regular fluid torque converter) and the smg, which is a sequential box with proper normal gearing, and a friction clutch, actuated by the paddles on the steering wheel (or a shifter) via hydraulic pistons.
4. the 330i has enough torque low down to be ok with steptronic if you choose this route.
5. if you go for the smg, your wife can shift (it can be operated in auto mode), and you will have an excellent, super fast car, much faster than steptronic, and argualbly faster than regular manual.

hope this helps...

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Originally posted by joeyg@Apr 14 2004, 04:05 PM
I want to get the steptronic as my wife does not drive manual.

Maybe you should teach your wife to drive stick.
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whoa i dont even know what it stands for lol


its just the tranny designation lol

its probably sumtin in german like Zuper hyper performance
zhp = performance package
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Get the 330i Performance Package STICK SHIFT and teach you wife to drive a stick, period !

I just got my PP about 2 weeks ago, it is incredible. Mine 330i has:

Performance Package (I call it magical suspension with 18" rims)
Mystic Blue Metallic
Moonroof
Cold Weather Package
Navigation - get it, it is worth 1800$
Zenon - unbelievable, it really is bright and auto-leveling, pretty neat stuff

It is a really nice package, and the only problem is that I have to keep the revs down until 1200 miles or so.
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Originally posted by MrM3+Apr 16 2004, 02:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrM3 @ Apr 16 2004, 02:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-///M Power@Apr 14 2004, 10:00 PM
whoa i dont even know what it stands for lol


its just the tranny designation lol

its probably sumtin in german like Zuper hyper performance
zhp = performance package [/b][/quote]
HAH IN THAT CASE I GOT IT

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