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Old 03-07-2006, 11:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2001 BMW 330Ci 5 Speed Transmission Issues

Alright guys this is a question for someone knowledgable. As "preventative maintenance", I had my 2001 330Ci manual transmission fluid changed with Red Line MTL. It is the recommended fluid by the techs in the Roundel Magazine, so we used it. I was hoping my car would shift better, because before it never really did. Now it's gotten worse. Unless I am at a stop, I cannot get the car into 1st, and when it's cold, its very rough going into 2nd. Does anyone have any suggestions, or comments about this issue?
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How many miles on your clutch?
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Clutch has 90k miles.
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Old 03-08-2006, 06:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well I'm no expert on clutches, but I recently replaced a clutch on my old Ford Taurus SHO that was shifting hard and squeaking, etc. Turns out the clutch wasn't bad, but the throw-out bearing was fried. The new clutch and throw-out bearing made a world of difference.

A manual trans is fairly simple. If it's shifting hard, it may just be time to get a new clutch. 90k miles is a good amount for a clutch, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty worn out.

Regarding the tranny fluid, here's a link that shows you how to change it and what gear oil to use. If I were you, I'd take a couple of hours and replace the gear oil (if that's what you think the problem is) and get a new clutch. You could even upgrade to a lightened flywheel while you're in there.

Just a thought....good luck!
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Alright guys this is a question for someone knowledgable. As "preventative maintenance", I had my 2001 330Ci manual transmission fluid changed with Red Line MTL. It is the recommended fluid by the techs in the Roundel Magazine, so we used it. I was hoping my car would shift better, because before it never really did. Now it's gotten worse. Unless I am at a stop, I cannot get the car into 1st, and when it's cold, its very rough going into 2nd. Does anyone have any suggestions, or comments about this issue?
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To improve shifting you should use a "Red Line" D4 automatic transmission fluid , not a MTL.That is what most people use in their E 46 manual transmission around North America , when changing from original "life time " fill.
Reason for that is , because D4 has as close as posible values and parameters(viscosity indexes, flash and pour points and TAN number) to original fluid.This two fluids(BMW and D4) are 99 % identical to each other.
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as always zibby is correct....

however my manual states only bmw fluid should be used for the gearbox


whereas for all other oils and fluids it state "or equivalent"

so it is VERY specific about the gearbox oil only
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How much $$ is said BMW gear oil? How many quarts (or liters) should one purchase?

When should one do this change (how many miles)? My car has almost 80K and I will be changing the engine oil and filter this weekend. Should I go ahead and change the gear oil as well? Sounds pretty damn simple.
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Sorry, I forgot to give you the link. Here's the page that has the step-by-step proceedure on changing the trans fluid.

http://m3.madrussian.net/diy_rp_tranny_fluid.shtml
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tech talk at the roundel says tranny and differentials every 30k or so.

they swear by mtl or d4, with a preference for d4 in the north. my experience with redline products has been uniformly positive.

i never tried to buy bmw gear oil, but i am assuming it is available.
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Cool, something else to add to the list of "things to do to my Bimmer".

Where can one procure said D4 or MTL? cost?
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go to redline site, they have a list of dealers. cost is minor. also, they have a bunch of well written info about their stuff.
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