Well, my car is pretty dang low...

[Tennessee]

...and has an awful lot of negative camber in the front and back. Is there anything that can be done to correct the front camber without dropping almost $400 on adjustable camber plates? I used the search, albeit quickly, and found only threads about using the plates. Basically, can I get some positive camber back on the cheap, like fixed plates that only correct it so much, etc. I had a camber issue on another car, and it was fixed by slotting the bolt holes so the top of the strut could be moved; maybe something like that...

[AlpineSixAndSeven]

I would just save and get camber plates(400 seems high for them) donno any other way to loose front camber

Btw is that you hugging a banjo?

[Tennessee]

Originally Posted by AlpineSixAndSeven

Btw is that you hugging a banjo?

Haha, yeah. I'm trying to learn how to play. I'm not very good at it, but I absolutely love bluegrass music. I am from Tennessee, y'know.

[Torque]

Camber plates.

Me? I just let them wear out. Fuck' em. Pardon my French.

[Tennessee]

Problem is that I'll be using this car as a daily driver, don't want to lose a war pension on tires. I've fixed plates that are for adding negative camber, but none that are for taking it away

[Tennessee]

I found something else at Summit, wonder how well this works? Does anybody have any experience with this kind of thing?

[johnnyBgood]

Originally Posted by Tennessee

I found something else at Summit, wonder how well this works? Does anybody have any experience with this kind of thing?

That looks very similar to this: I would go with the H&R......

H&R ‘Triple C’ Camber Adjustment Bolts | Products || H&R Special Springs, LP


jb


edit: "Scratch that"........ Seems they do not carry the H&R ‘Triple C’ Camber Adjustment Bolts for BMW's

[johnnyBgood]

Tire Rack carries the Eibach brand for your car, but they very pricey!

$278.00 just for a pair of bolts........

tirerack.com


jb

[Tennessee]

Originally Posted by johnnybayonne

$278.00 just for a pair of bolts........

Good night! What is the deal with that junk?

[Torque]

Guys, 5.72070K on TireRack which you guys are looking at are camber plates; TireRack just uses a generic image ... look on eibach.com if you don't believe me.

Camber bolts can not work on a e36 because of the way the strut mounts to the car ... you can add camber with longer bolts and washer but there is no way to take it away.

[Tennessee]

Originally Posted by Torque

Camber bolts can not work on a e36 because of the way the strut mounts to the car ... you can add camber with longer bolts and washer but there is no way to take it away.

Please explain to me where you'd put longer bolts ans washers to add camber. I believe what you are saying, I'm just trying to get a better idea of precisely what you mean.

[Torque]

Take a look at this diagram: RealOEM.com BMW E36 318i MOTORSPORT CHASSIS SPRING STRUT

The bolt #3 and washer #4 in the picture are what you replace. The factory bolts (2 of them per side) are 20mm long. You'd need 25mm long bolts and 5mm worth of washers per bolt (depends on manufacturer of bolts but normally 4 washers).

Let's say you only want to shim it out a little bit: you put two washers between the strut and the spindle (and you put the other two where the factory #4 washer was); if you need all 4, then you put all 4 between the strut and spindle and use only one (the factory one) where the original was too.

Keep in mind though that you need 10.9 grade bolts and washers (which only some hardware stores sell): the bolts are M12x## (## being whatever length you need; factory is 20mm) and the washers are M12. The 10.9 (grade of steel) is normally on the head of the bolt. Do not use weaker (8.8 grade) bolts ... last thing you want is for one of them to snap (especially with the extended length) after you hit a pothole.

Most online parts sources sell "camber shim kits" and what have you; Google: e36 camber shims or something like that and you'll find plenty of stuff.

[johnnyBgood]

Originally Posted by Torque

Take a look at this diagram: RealOEM.com BMW E36 318i MOTORSPORT CHASSIS SPRING STRUT

The bolt #3 and washer #4 in the picture are what you replace. The factory bolts (2 of them per side) are 20mm long. You'd need 25mm long bolts and 5mm worth of washers per bolt (depends on manufacturer of bolts but normally 4 washers).

Let's say you only want to shim it out a little bit: you put two washers between the strut and the spindle (and you put the other two where the factory #4 washer was); if you need all 4, then you put all 4 between the strut and spindle and use only one (the factory one) where the original was too.

Keep in mind though that you need 10.9 grade bolts and washers (which only some hardware stores sell): the bolts are M12x## (## being whatever length you need; factory is 20mm) and the washers are M12. The 10.9 (grade of steel) is normally on the head of the bolt. Do not use weaker (8.8 grade) bolts ... last thing you want is for one of them to snap (especially with the extended length) after you hit a pothole.

Most online parts sources sell "camber shim kits" and what have you; Google: e36 camber shims or something like that and you'll find plenty of stuff.

Would something like this work? in his case......


http://store.bimmerworld.com/shared/...s.asp&x=43&y=8

johnny

[Torque]

Your link doesn't go anywhere; I'm guessing you're talking about this: http://store.bimmerworld.com/shared/...immerworl&All=

And yes, same thing ... washers or shims, they go the same place and do the same thing.

[johnnyBgood]

Originally Posted by Torque

Your link doesn't go anywhere; I'm guessing you're talking about this: http://store.bimmerworld.com/shared/...immerworl&All=

And yes, same thing ... washers or shims, they go the same place and do the same thing.

Oops!........thanks Torque!


jb